Good morning. Today the committee convenes for a hearing on the federal Aviation Administrations oversight of aircraft certification. I welcome our witnesses, faa administer steve dixon and michael stumo, father of samyo who tragically died and thank them for participating. March 10th marched the oneyear anniversary of the crash of ethiopians flight 382. The aircraft involved in both accidents was the boeing 737 max. Our deepest sympathies continue to go out to the families of those loved ones who are among the 346 souls lost in these crashes. Since the Ethiopian Airlines crash, the committee has heard from many whistleblowers at the faa, at boeing and in the Aviation Industry. It is increasingly clear from our investigation that the faa has a number of Serious Problems to address. My investigation staff has interviewed dozens of witnesses, reviewed many thousands of documents and emails and been diligent in pursuit of these facts. No matter where they lead. However, i must express my profound frustration with the agencys lack of responsiveness to most of my requests. Dating back to last april, for documents that stem from whistleblower disclosures. On april 2nd, 2019, i sent then acting administer Daniel Elwell a letter about training and certification of the aviation safety inspectors. Following the responses to my initial request, i sent a followup letter on july 31st, 2019, to acting administrator elwell. These 65 specific items included such serious matters of allegations of whistleblower retaliation by senior faa managers. Nearly one year later we have received complete responses for about 10 of those items. And partial responses for another 30 . We have not received any response to over half of these requests. Given the subject matter of todays hearing, i would note that 12 of the requests that faa has not responded to pertain directly to the 737 max certification. Directly to todays subject matter. On august 1st, 2019, Committee Staff asked the department of transportation, d. O. T. Counsel, to identify which item of the requests each production was responsive to and whether the protection represented a complete response. This request has been reiterated several times but has not been consistently followed by d. O. T. The committee has made every effort to aid and document production. Back in september of 2019, the Committee Staff sent the faa a prioritized list of ten of the most significant requests. Ten. Two of these ten items were emphasized again on december 18, 2019. Over the course of nine months, we have received completed responses to two prioritized requests. Partial responses to six and no response at all to two of the top ten items. In one case, staff requested emails between two faa employees during a short period of time. The agency provided a response but did not include a specific email we were pursuing. Additional narrowing to a specific date by staff was required to produce the specific emails sought. The faa has still not produced the additional emails between these employees that i requested on july 31st, 2019. Today is june 17th. We have not received any documents since april 27th of this year. The lack of timely and complete responses to our document requests force the staff to seek faa staff interviews beginning in october of 2019. The d. O. T. Response in handling of the interview requests has been very slow. In seven months, our Investigations Team has been able to interview only four faa Staff Members of the 21 we have requested to interview. And then came the virus. Recognizing the covid19 impact on april 6th, 2020, Committee Staff requested to move forward with brief written interrogatories of multiple faa employees to expedite gathering information with minimal impact on involved parties. D. O. T. Staff did not provide a definitive answer on the feasibility of written interrogatories until april 30th, almost a month later. When they stated that inperson interviews were preferred. On may 5th, as a result of d. O. T. Rejecting the interrogatory approach, the Committee Staff requested to interview the next faa employee. On may 11th, d. O. T. Staff stated that they were working to make the next interviewee available. That was may 5th. As of today, june 17th, 2020, Committee Staff have not heard back on when this interview can take place. In our telephone conversation last thursday, i raised a number of these matters. And spoke of our frustration generally. You promised that your team would work with my staff quickly to get back on track. I am extremely disappointed that we have not made significant progress since that phone call. My staff followed up immediately after our call to set up a meeting with the staff member you identified. That request was acknowledged but no attempt was made to set up the meeting. Last friday evening, my staff reiterated our meeting request and provided a comprehensive list of all outstanding document and interview requests. My team asked to schedule a call on monday which was denied but your team offered to meet this thursday, tomorrow, one day after this hearing. The entire purpose or the large purpose of the meeting was to get answer before this hearing, not wait until after its conclusion. Its my understanding that our teams did speak last night after my staff insisted on the timely nature of the call. But no progress was made on resolving the multitude of outstanding issues. This record of delay and nonresponsiveness shows at best an unwillingness to cooperate in congressional oversight. It is hard not to conclude your team at the faa had deliberately attempted to keep us in the dark and that and by that i mean our investigation staff, our committee, and me. It is hard not to characterize our relationship during this entire process as being adversarile on the part of the faa. During your confirmation hearing, i asked this question as we ask all nominees, quote, if confirmed, will you pledge to work collaboratively with this committee and provide thorough and timely responses, unquote. You answered yes as we require all nominees to do. The lack of cooperation by your agency calls into question the commitment behind that pledge. We are not embarking on a fishing expedition. Our request for documents and interviews had been very specific in content and reasonable in scope. I can only assume that the agency stonewalling of my investigation suggests discomfort for what might ultimately be revealed. I expect to receive an explanation today at this hearing for the failure to comply with the committees request. As i mentioned, part of the committees investigation involves the 737 max. Following the Ethiopian Airlines crash, the faa grounded the fleet of 737 max airplanes. Over a year later, the plane has still not been cleared to return to passenger service. The faa, boeing, and International Regulators involved in the recertification process should take whatever time is needed to get the recertification right. As the recertification continues, a number of reviews including this committees investigation have raised concerns about how the max was designed and certified, how pilots were trained, and the nature of the relationship between the faa and boeing. The faa needs to hold accountable anyone at the agency or at boeing who broke the rules or fell short of meeting expectations. Last october this committee was the first on capitol hill to convene an oversight hearing with boeing leadership. Today we will hear from administrator dickson on what happened. The steps that the agency is taking to return the max to safe flight and how they can prevent future tragedies. The recertification is a critical component of rebuilding trust in the faa. Before the max crashes, the faa was the unquestioned Gold Standard with regard to aviation safety. Congress has an Important Role to play in helping restore the confidence in the agency. As a result of the committees investigations and findings from the National Transportation safety board from the joint authorities technical review and from the department of transportation, the rank pg memb Ranking Member and i have worked together and introduced legislation to improve aviation safety. Our legislation creates a new requirement for manufacturers to prioritize safety. It reforms the Organization Design authorization system, it creates a new emphasize on understanding how pilots interact with modern aircraft and other Human Factors, enhances protection for whistleblowers and bolsters congressional oversight. This monday, day before yesterday, the Ranking Member staff requested that you be allowed to testify. In spite of the latest of this request, we were able to accommodate such a request by adding a second panel for him. I look forward to a detailed discussion of the faas aircraft certification process and how it can be improved so these tragedies do not happen. I also expect an explanation of the agencys unwillingness to respond to this committees request for information. I recognize my friend and colleague and Ranking Member senator cantwell for her Opening Statement. Thank you for your statement. I want to say that the as Ranking Member, we stand with you for any information requests and efforts to get the faa to comply with what the majority has been requesting. Thank you for that statement. I want to take a moment to recognize the families who have lost loved ones in the Ethiopians Airlines tragedy. I appreciate your vigilance, just as i have appreciated the families who have attended our meetings. We thank you for doing it. All of the voices in these efforts to make our skies safer are important. I also look forward to hearing the testimony. We have to get this right for his daughter and the 346 victims of those crashes. Todays discussion is about leadership, about restoring americas leadership in aviation safety. Safety is job one. Its job one in a critical sector that employs 2. 5 million people, 150,000 in the state of washington, but safety is job one because it involves so many lives. The Leadership Task begins with the faa and you, administrator dickson. We look forward to hear about how you will improve safety in response to these two accidents will be undertaken. There have been numerous reports issued since the accidents and unfortunately the response to a number of those investigations seem more a ridged acceptance of the status quo than the needed changes that we want to see at the faa. No matter what the structure of the faa, it must be clear that it is an independent agency with oversight of certification. We need to have the best workforce, which i believe we do, in the northwest. But we must have experts and investigators that are qualified and technically trained at the faa to oversee in a sufficient manner the compliance process. Now, theres a lot of discussion about wall street and the approach to aviation of value engineering. Im going to tell you something about the northwest, the pride of the northwest is about innovation and solid engineering and solid engineering advancements. It is not about doing things on the quick. It is about doing things deliberately and getting safety right. And i want to see a certification process where we are listening to those engineers at the beginning of the process who are calling out some of these safety issues. The faa management needs to be willing to back up those engineers on the ground who are calling out safety concerns at the earliest phases of the process not at the end and certainly not after certification. The faa system of delegation dates back to 1958. It could traced back to 1927 when private doctors were used to conduct private health checks. However, it was the faas own action taking authority in the delegation of manufacture for technical approval that started in 2005 over the oda system. Under this program, the industry engineers acts on behalf of the faa. These lines of oversight and communication were fragmented. I believe, and i think the chairman believes as well, we need a system of certification where hardworking engineers and engineering safety is driving the certification process not the other way around. We cant have planes certified and then after the certification have them grounded because of unsafe features. A technical review by the International Safety authoritys joint Authority Technical review identified a number of problems with the oda program and faa oversight specifically the need for a more holistic review and the fact that engineering expertise needed to have open Communication System and the Technology Level the Technical Expertise level of those engineers needed to be there. So, mr. Dickson, today, i hope we will hear about what the faa believes needs to be remind in this program, what reforms of those suggested by chairman wicker and myself do you support. I want to thank chairman wicker and his team and my team for working so collaboratively with us and their hard work in introducing this legislation that the chairman just mentioned. I believe it does fundamentally change the way the faa oversees the certification of large commercial aircraft. Specifically, our bill, the airport safety and certification act of 2020, will revamp the oda and make sure that the faa stays in the drivers seat of certification. Under our bill, the faa will once again be responsible for directly appointing and improving the engineers who are tasked with carrying out the certification on behalf of the administrator. In addition, the faa will assign safetily providers to oversee this and create a new whistleblower protection to fortify the channels of communication and reporting safety. Critically, our bill will end any semblance of selfcertification by repealing sections that would give the faa Additional Authority for delegation. Our bill also requires implementation of the ntsb recommendatio recommendations safety administer. I believe these new standards would address the issues of multiple flight alerts and the need for Pilot Training. I want to thank senator duckworth for her work with me on this act. The faa must keep pace with the skills and have the technical capacity to handle an increasingly complex airport technology. Automation has certainly helped safety, but the amount of automation and uncontrolled commands and alerts can be confusing particularly when you only have seconds to respond. So understanding the interactions between Human Technology and operation environment is becoming more critical to safety in aviation. That is why the bill with chairman wicker also establishes a center of excellence for flight automation and Human Factors and creates an office, the faa office of continuing education and training, to make sure that those inspectors maintain and keep the expertise necessary to do the oversight that is required by the faa. We also need science and technical advisers to address these developing new technologies. With technology changing, building skills is important and i want to thank the senator for introducing the building capacity act which will increase global pilot standards in the faas bilateral to improve Pilot Training. The United States need to be loud and clear that we want to see strong airmenship. That is to say, a pilot needs to be able to fly the plane without the automation. And i hope that we and you will help lead that effort on an international basis. We also need a strong aviation workforce for the future and that is why ive partnered with senator blunt with the National Air Grant Fellowship Program which would create an aerospace policy fellowship and leader for the future act. Its clear the race for aviation around the globe is on. But we cannot have that race for competition drive us away from a solid safety and certification regime. The solution to that competition, i believe, is to hire and retain the best Safety Experts that we can find. So i look forward to hearing the ways in which you believe the faa needs to improve the process. Again, i want to thank you chairman wicker for his leadership on the bill that we just introduced and thank him for his focus on this issue. We do need to hold manufacturers accountable for compliance and Safety Standards through the process. I look forward to continuing to work with him on that. We need to have certain design features that we know are compliant with the air worthiness standard. No one wants to see a process where at the end of the process its not clear that the data indicates actual compliance. I will have many questions about this. Mr. Dickson, today, were looking forward to the leadership that you will provide in addressing these issues. Safety has to be paramount and the faa has to be independent. Thank you for being here and i look forward to hearing from both our witnesses. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Thank you, senator cantwell. Administrator, im sure you will want to respond to many of the statements made in my Opening Statement. But specifically just to reiterate, my staff began this effort on july 31st of last year and as i pointed out, weve received no response to over half of the items requested even after we narrowed down the scope of our request significantly. There has been a lack of cooperation. So please explain to the committee your position in this regard and well have followup questions also, sir. Good morning, mr. Chairman, and Ranking Member cantwell, members of the committee. Thank you for sir, you have