Michael pompeo for a special conversation with us. Because the secretary with us before brussels 2018, its great to have again. E will be closely watched conversation on challenges facing policy drones on bothic sides in terms of this as always, let me say a word of thanks to our partners, our Founding Partners in the foreign affairs, and all our associate and supporting knowledge partners, im grateful to me say a special thank you to your submissions brief missions instant partnership and support. Let me also say a word secretary make brief to turn this over f for, the wall street journal, will have a conversation with the secretary then the as well. Thank you for joining. Over to you. Secretary of state asking for opening remarks, is mine to keep him busy and we will take questions from the audience. Inviting me. For wanting to watch this today. As we referred too 18 months ag, i made the case to you all that both institutions are in demand themselves we have to assess what they do achieve, we have to see them for what they are, what we wish them to be. You should know privately, any of my counterparts recruitment they are realistic about the state of institutions and they, too, that are starting to see more realism as it relates to the right of the communist party in china. We should address it together as transatlantic partners have met many partners and i want to focus on today. First, the data. In regard to whats happening, i spoke thisud month the Foreign Ministers audience in both places, i listened to a lot of feedback about the Chinese Communist party. Laid out a series of backs i talked about Peoples Liberation armys provocative military action, including continued aggression here in the sea, the quarter competition in india and their program and thats against neighbors. International commitment to include the who, wpo, United Nations and the people of hong kong. The predatory practices which is trying to force nations tobu do business and arm of the surveillance state. Talked about many of its violation of european including the company. Human rights abuses which continues to shock us all. It leads to a conclusion in our judgment, not forcing europe to choose chinas vision. China is making the choice between freedom and democracy. We will recognize the reality of rising regime and implications for us to our society. Europe is slow, too. The coverup of the coronavirus outbreak that began on, china which has k now tens of thousans all of our thousand people accelerated everyones awakening in americans starting to find the ways, the commission an external service to divide china arrival. Very important acknowledgment. Y the Intelligent ServiceNational Threat is potential for the first time in 2019. He did so again in 2020. Hong kong. I appreciated all the u. S. Called on china for Disinformation Campaign surrounding the pandemic. Not just words on china, many european leaders making them as a strong stand against his intent to crush hong kongs economy. Adopting principles of secured networks, Clean Networks and 5g my friend, secretary to make china a greater part of the alliances focus. Billy is a transatlantic awakening to the truth what happened. Concerns growing among the exploration and exploitation to give a single example, chinese leaders in the International Telecommunications union and Civil Aviation organization have leveraged their position to advance chinas narrow interest. Certainly, the u. S. Is our differences on the subject of motoric literalism. We can all agree these institutions should be voted in Democratic Values into the mission and interests of all m m members weve already done some good work to spring effort to make sure the next director general of the Organization Protect intellectual property rights, not on behalf of china. The transatlantic world has thrived like no other part of the world since world war ii because our countries protect intellectual property i want to thank your friends and family in the uk mostly efforts in securing outcome. We should keep protecting transatlantic partners. My messagege today, will have to Work Together to continue trade at the lake china challenged in the interest of preserving our prosperity and our future. Most home tensions and exemptn increasingly belligerent ccp. Its nonsense. I dont accept the argument. This will compromise between freedom and authoritarianism. I dont what the future she will let no one on this want that either. Today im pleased to announce the u. S. Acceptedeiei s i representatives proposal to the u. S. Dialogue on china, i am excited about this. Mechanism for discussing the concerns we have about the threat china poses in our shared democratic ideals. Look forward to keep the representative morale as soon as we can put together. My invitation is to defend these values in our time, they may the good ofrld for the future just as they have done except values together. In fact, i am happy to take questions from you and others as well. Thank you i know you proposed week. Hows it going to work . Kind of love is it . Mike pompeo what it would look like. And i will be able to travel to europe here just a handful of weeks. So we will certainly start into that. At a senior level. We a will outline the mission st and well and dont know exactly the shape of the day, i am confident we will set up a structure that will enhance our collective shared knowledge in our collective responses and ensuring we protectkn freedom fm every democracy in both sideserf the atlantic. What you expected to really kickoff and operating. Mike pompeo hopefully becomes very religious the nextt few weeks. So its a little morest difficut because in terms of our capacities of travel, but i would expect that will have teams in place identified in the next week. And then real work will begin. It is something that is starting that we want to kickoff but i dont know that there is a endpoint. I expect this will go on for an extended period of time because of the challenge. Jointly trying to solve four. Is that we preserve and democracy in both sides of the atlantic and protect our citizens. And from the very fact of the steps that i laid out in the beginning of my remarks today. Host knowing the European Union, i myself have covered it for over a decade. These people would love for this committee, are you concerned that this might rain down the real action on the challenges and sort of this lengthy debate which will become technical and so on. The has shown in the past the tendency towards more sort of discussion and little action. Do you fear that could be the outcome. Mike pompeo i am really realistic you should know. The people in america sometimes lovend good that and are not immune to that bureaucratic phenomenon. So we are guilty to about. I am very hopeful this will be different from that. And what i amha hopeful is this backup. So the first thing we will have to do is make should be have a collective data set. You can take collective action unless you have a sheer understanding of the core facts. We should build onn that. That we havent cured understanding that isan the thrt that exposed by t the Chinese Communist party. Then we can begin to take action. Theres a lot of information thats already taken place. What we are counting onn is this dialogue want to be of resistance as you described an outlet for energy with no action or rather a catalyst for action. So in our side, we will work to make sure we have a good set of facts and created set of proposals for things that we can hado together. But not everybody in the eat y you, while there will be 2000 from his right. This is so on many issues but i believe that by doing this, we can form a collective judgment in places where there is significant overlap and then begin to actually see the collective response the same way the trancelike alliances is always an event always reserved to represent. We will preserve and protect those freedoms that the chinese want to undermine each and every day. Bojan pancevski you made two very important points. In europe about the role of china and how it shapes the order today. And a lot of people are making a lot of money in china. Theres this tension between these two awareness is an issues. China is responsible in the European Union especially with bigger economy of germany. I remember last year when President Trump was at the height of the t negotiation with china over a new trade arrangement. And when be jean with a bunch of ceos. It sort of was seen as some americans, as what theer undermining american argument when europe is doing business with china. In china started to have a relationship. Recently, the sort of took the news from frank sinatra. The Foreign Policy as sort of a way, the third way, one being the american way, when being the chinese way, will try to align. And what youre saying, is basically think that you cantin do that. You at one point, have to wake up to the reality of things. What though if europe continues to attempt to struggle this divine widens, and other people fear that they will widen over things such as covid19 andve so on. What happens if they so stubbornly good go in. Mike pompeo so we have a relationship with the market million plus people thats important to the United States economy. It is not necessarily an either or. What is required is the rules in which that trade engages has to be reciprocal. It has to be fair. That europeans to make no mistake the chinese sell a lot of german secrets in the german people are worse off for that. Millions of dollars stolen by the Chinese CommunistParty Outside of germany the hard working people created for that International Property nor corporate. An attorney came and stole it. They did all across europe and the continue to do it theyre doing it in the United States well. That is a place wee cant work very closely together. It is not that you have to choose business over confronting the Chinese Communist party. And it creates the opportunity for increased in europe in the in the United States of america. The last thing to say about this is china needs markets two. This is what President Trump figured out pretty differently no other president has beennk willing to undertake the corporate was a china needs access to western knowledge and knowhow. This is based on the real space order. I think the people of europe but demand the same thing thatil the people of the United States of america are demanding. So we no longer of the Chinese Communist party to dictate the rules and the terms of conditions of those relationships. When theyre not fair and equitable to our people. That is what President Trump has been thinking and talking about with the european will see from their leaders as well. Bojan pancevski thank you as we go beyond the issues of china, and another one which is crucial for this topic relationships at the moment. New yourself have served during the cold war in germany. I think there around 300 on the ground there. And President Trump is announced that he will pull out around many thousands of those trips because of the number of issues including germanys economic ties and the energy with russia and the failure to reach 2 percent of the budget payments for nato express direct etc. I nicely the strategic decision. We know that the u. S. And they have concluded in russia that has that threat to europe and the United States interests. How you explain this to counterparts in europe were deprived. I think we even saw the polish president s do thatha yesterday brittany benefited the white house. In this country stands again in terms of getting trips over to poland. He himself pleaded with the president not to do that multiple troops out. What would be your analysis here. How did this help the american questioner. Mike pompeo several things. First, we do consider russia to be a serious threat. Spending 1 percent of your gpo defense is germanyny does, acknowledges the they will may not take is a series of arthritis United States of america takes it. And they need to. A commitment to the United States made on their behalf. After the commitment that they they drove through membranous commitment that germany made. And they have chosen not to do that. The president has been very clear. It doesnt show the resolve as Vladimir Putin needs to see from germany. You reference frequently, when germany is not going to have a piece of that energy h connected to russians. And that fundamental way. Fundamentally. And they will be powerful for quite some time. They will have the capacity have aav real, capacity with real cot of germany. If he chose to do so or threatens to do so. As for our decision. Present trump is open to us, the secretary will be in london today and brussels tomorrow. He will talk about our plan never thinking about delivering it. But you should understand and ii hope our european counterparts understand this as p well. Emily ultimately deliver on that statement that the president has made. That squarely at what we believe to be democracy, fundamental Interest Rate and certainly americas most fundamental Interest Rate is been long time since therere has been a Strategic Review all across the world. It winter took b that starting about two and a half years ago. And that was our forces in africath and asia and middle eat and europe. He began to say, these are often decisions that we made. We have a different composition of those forces. Everyone always wants to o talk about roundtrips. I get it. It was a young take officer. And that nothing alike as much as a good in one take. But is often the case that the capacity is not determined any longer by just having about the folks someplace princely really need to go back fundamentally, whatat is the nature of the conflict. In the nature of the threat. How should we allocate resources, whether that is a resources of the intelligence community. Ge our eight resources from the air force in the marines are broad set of allocation securities, Cyber Threats and how do we allocate the best way to do this in the decision that the president made with respect to germany as a outcome from a collective set of decisions about how were going to foster our resources around the world. I will close with this last thought. And in answer to your question. This is going to dictate that in certain places, there will be fewer american resources. There will be other places. We just talked about the threat from the Chinese Communist party. The hope was to india and vietnam and malaysia. Indonesia, sel in the philippin. Well make sure we are fostering appropriately, and the like. I would think that is the challenge of our times and we will make sure that we have resources in place to do that. To the extent that change, with the United States decided to do affects others. Any need that others need to stay proppant take responsibly for their own defense in ways that they hadnt done previously. So were going to do the simple consultation with all of our partners, all of the world. And certainly our friends in europe. Bojan pancevski and another aissue that similarly is chippg away the confidence in the relationship. Europe is the issue of iran. And i think youre also directly involved in. Is there any sort of continuance he of fighting, iran will start a new program. The maximum pressure and i camping. Some people say words but also may well, seems to be feeding to say iran going back to the whole point of this agreement was to avoid them. And trying to it she or create Nuclear Weapon. While you do in the case. I think youn said earlier on cbs in an interview that youre confident they will not go there. But they seem to be suggesting they are going there. What would you do if they went there. Mike pompeo europeans are not aboard, and trembling of have a different view of how to achieve that pretty and fundamentally wrong. We will continue to have a disagreement there. If still got met some Pressure Campaign is been successful. In the resources, will have capacity toap fill out, would build out if we would have continued to do business and throw wealth and resources at ayatollah. We constrained them and build a coalition, to counter rock and all across the region. Im very confident that our administration has taken, is correct. Iranians have chosen not to violate. And resolve our decision to do so. In october of this year, they will expire and that cant happen. Iranians will be permitted to buy weapon systems and become one of the largest sellers of weapon systems around then worl. It will be able to write chinese jets, russian jets, and i can imagine the system of sylvania for germany or greece, or any other European Countries would conclude that it was wise to allow the iranians to have that capability. The capacity by selling those weapon systems. Salinas is going to make sure that doesnt happen. When the u. S. Security resolution that will prevent them in the coming weeks. We are hopeful. That will convince all of those on the Un Security Council extending the arms on irans, makes sense. One of the central failures of the nuclear deal but after just a handful of years, three years plus, for yourhr response. Our having to contemplate the expiration of that provision. The central europeans security. Bojan pancevski wat