Thoughts, i know you have a few. Guest im kind of obsessed with looking at this list. I take the bullet for the team. Im always interested and talked a couple of weeks ago about these books that were decades old popping up on to kill a mockingbird was a prime example. And we know why the handmaids tale was there this week on the Washington Post bestseller paperback up pops blue highways. This was a book that was written in 1978. He was an english professor and lost his job and was separated from his wife and got in a forward e. , line 1975 van and rode what he called the blue highways. This was before gps and before google maps here he got the map of the country and all the backroads were colored blue. Those were the road he chose to take and so, he went to 38 of the 50 states and just kind of learning america, learning a lot about himself it was a Remarkable Book on the bestseller list in for 40 or 45 weeks were some like that. That. He has written other books in that he he is best known for t. And i cannot figure out for the life of me why it popped up. Is it a Movement Rising up from the people of the streets. Remaking cars. The forward e. I dont think we called in gas stations anymorandgas statiu could than to any gas station and buy macs. If anybody has a theory, hes still alivheis still alive and s and is an author of english, irish and osage background. His father was [inaudible] and his brother [inaudible] thats kind of a bummer. The other thing i want to tell people about coming into this is something that isnt for everybody, but my sister is here tonight gave me a book. Its called on the streets and it will send by the fashion photographer incredibly interesting man, just rode a bicycle through the streets of new york with this landmark sort of blue coat. Everybody recognized him and he photographed the famous and not famous at all street fashion in particular. He was brilliant at spotting things and as you go through the each decade has an essay or two written by somebody that worked for the new york times, just talking about what he was capturing another decade. I was quite a life for al alivee decade seemed capable of buying incredibly bad fashion and seeing life sort of flash before you as you read the book and seeing its horrible shoulder pads that you your self know are guilty. One of my failed careers was trying to be a photographer and back in the day when he was doing that and becoming well known it was controversial among the photographers because he isnt richard and couldnt pretend to be. He isnt a great photographer in the same of setting the scene, but he was out there all the time and he would see something two or three times and see this controversy and where was he promoting it and people of course, Corporate America started to get to them so it doesnt just happen to be a couple of models walking down fifth avenue. That he had a pretty good detector and it is a good book ive seen it just a flip through. Remember Agatha Christie. There will be an ad in the print version of the times for the play to kill a mocking bird that has to be hoping that we are talking about house she was everywhere and now theres a movie coming out in november called knives out and its being called Agatha Christie like Christopher Plummer all sorts of famous people with different famous people in it. Its already getting a 98 on rotten tomatoes. I dont know how you do that that is a very warm score but they are wrapping all of this event noupand now i feel like id read one of the books. You are the baby of the book. Have you ever read any . Hispanic in anticipation of this moment to fit in with you but i think that is a pretty good excuse. If they are a devotee they are. Ron charles the book critic when weve had on the show and is fabulous and if you dont subscribe to his newsletter, subscribe to his newsletter. He had a list and until you see him do a spectacular letter and its really good and interesting, he did essentially a warning in the last newsletter we are going to see a flurry of books about whistleblowers coming out. He said 20, 30 years ago maybe two or three wellknown journalists write th write a bos now because of selfpublishing and everything else, there will probably be a hundred cities is keep it dry, lets let them come out and decide before we dig into any one or two so we wont talk about whistleblower books but especially since we have the washington crowd here both of you born and raised in washington, d. C. Those of us that live on the other side of the river that have been talking, this is far away. Its very far away. The cspan crew left at 8 00 this morning to make sure. This is a whistleblower quiz and i will just do a few. Although there is a great story give a little description here the new York City Police officer later portrayed by al pacino and the audience who was famous for what . He was a cop that pulled on other cops. After being shot in the face during a drug raid and later moved out of the country. Have you ever seen the movie, but as one of the most harrowing scenes youll eve you will evern he gets shot in the face. Our next one played in a movie she died mysteriously in 1974. Had driven off the road. My personal favorite because i had a connection with this one and its all about how can i inject myself into a story. Former white house staff member that was a key in the saga. I knew linda tripp but i was coming up with libby. That is the plaintiff still. Where does linda have a store and what kind of store is at . I want i i want to say arizona but i dont know if that is correct. It is in middleburg virginia and its 365 days a year and she is married to an austrian guy that walks around all the time and you go out there on the big anniversary of her affairs with Monica Lewinsky and everybody else in middleburg deeply presents it. Thats right, the name of the vineyard, hi his granddaughter s catherine, was that the granddaughters name . I told well earlier that this show was a sort of about books, but it wanders all over. Two times a year as an audience covering the redskins, so it was my turn, i went in and he was berating someone on the phone and i go how are you and he said you dont care how i am just ask your question [laughter] its kind of true. So what did you ask him about . At the first part of 2001 im running a crazy Public Affairs department at the building saying before i start if you could send me something that shows me what am i inheriting here so it is a binder, three and a half inches thick. The military doesnt do anything less than three and a half inches thick and its one of those diagram charts and they had my office into the outer Office Someone had handwritten in and linda tripp is out here which i thought was great. Last one, army soldier right up the road the documents provided. Its kind of a trick question. Extra points for the original first name . There we go. Next time we talk about whistleblowers that will be about books. [inaudible] woodward will not be on the show, i can tell you that. I could do a whole show and several stories about bob woodward. He once gave me the middle initial victoria a. Clarke which was pretty interesting because it not only isnt a, i dont have a middle name so i thought okay hes making that mistake for a time. Over to you. Welcome or thank you for welcoming us to your store [inaudible] we have a line though. Its quite good. So, you have a book writer extraordinaire. A harry potter fan. We talked a little bit about this or last time when we had you on the show and you came over to see us. It took me three hours to get home, but i did stop for food. You have some challenges a had s wonderful place at 2200 in arlington, where everyone should come. Easy metro access. You have challenges and the community has responded, so tell us about that. Usually july and august are slow months for us, but that wasnt the case this year. We found out in july that our real estate taxes went up 30 , which was a big chunk for us, for anyone i think. You cant just charge more because they say right there so it was a big surprise for all of us and i believe the owner said i guess we are just going to have to sort of tell people whats happening so that they know and she sent out an email to all of our descriptors and we were very open with our customers and other people in the community that know us that he said this is whats going on and this is what is happening and why. The response was as though a media and supported so it made up for the 34 increase but it really did help as to see how much people were being vocal about wanting to stay here and be part of how quickly they wrote letters to the county board which we said here is what you can do if you want to help. You can obviously come in and spend money but they were from what i heard in these letters which was incredible with people standing up for us and getting them to do something about it a little bit and the Board Members were very responsive as well, once they saw that we were going to kind of make it a thing. And everyone wanted to give something. I thought i would be annoying to say can you take time out of your busy life and writing books to help us out or anything you can do. There was a of course what do you want . Do you want more . It was a beautiful show of support. We ended up 90 different items or services. People were bidding on them with great enthusiasm. Even restaurants in the area if you havent been there is a place across the street thats amazing or a cafe down the street they were so supportive as well. The auction was a huge success we achieved that goal that we had as a dream not even thinking we would come remotely close and people showed up and it turned out and it was special. Like the end of its a wonderful life. Literally almost just like that. [laughter] it was incredible ever so grateful to everybody and the authors and Community Members somebody came in and said he lived in richmond now that said can i make a donation . People have been so kind and generous with their support. Put the money in the mug on the way out. [laughter] so this is a real challenge. Its easy for people to said at home and order a book. So give them a pitch for all the people why they should walk into a place like this or another local establishment. Any local bookstore will give you a unique experience. But we can offer an event like this with the amazing podcast. And we do have some wine tasting you can just show that up. Im not keeping track. [laughter] theres one on friday. So what we offer is we can tell from the slogan we are quirky. And to some that could be offputting but we read different genres are happy to talk to about them. But my grandfather has great taste. And just to be ourselves. And the one follow room by. [laughter] you will not regret it. If we stay here until 9 00 oclock we will see it in action. The other day it just started to go for no reason that i could discern which was a little bit disconcerting because it is scheduled hypothetically to start until 9 00 p. M. But sometimes you need a nice midday cleanup last but also on page three on we started that and allied of extra content. So if you want more robust start with twitter and then if you really are interested you can become a patriotic member. [laughter] tell the one book we should be reading we probably are not state that so hard and met so much pressure but i will say that when im reading right now im a nationals fan and for the next 25 hours i will be interested in baseball that thats a great collection of essays was reading on the metro talk about the things that you dont necessarily think about all the time there is a couple of essays about that. And how we as people are trying to tell a story it isnt statistic i like the way he makes you think about that game it isnt on necessarily everybodys radar absolutely no not. Thank you very much we will take a break. [inaudible conversations] we are back we are at the undisclosed location in Arlington Virginia which is not as far away as that sounds. Are featured author is will hagood the rule if we really like you i hold the book up a lot so cspan will get this a lot. You have written about white house butlers and Supreme Court justices in this book tiger land from 1968 in 1969 and in addition to be the awardwinning journalist the greatest accolade Oprah Winfrey called you honey. She called you honey. [laughter] how did that happen and why and what was it like . It must have been when we were making the movie down in new orleans. Based on the article you had written about away house butler who worked in the white house for almost four decades from president s from truman through reagan. And i was called on the telephone at home. I was sitting on my couch eating a Peanut Butter and jelly sandwich. The phone rings and pam williams who was one of the producers of the movie and i didnt think the movie was even happening. It was several years at the story was bought that i had even heard from them. And then i started to hear from the people that were making the movie, lee daniels, wonderful director and anyway pam williams calls me and says we finally found the actor who will play the butler. I said great. Who . She said forest whitaker. I said, now. Really . [laughter] who will play the butler. She said really. Forest whitaker. Said oh my goodness. Wow. The next day my phone rings again and pam williams says we finally found the actress who will play your wife on the wife of the butler i said who will that be . She said Oprah Winfrey. And i said okay now stop joking. [laughter] lets roll onto the serious part of the conversation. She said will, sit down. I said i am. With your Peanut Butter and jelly. This is a different day. She said Oprah Winfrey will play the wife of the butler and then the other cast members started to roll in. Lenny kravitz jane fonda, vanessa redgrave, kuba gooding junior, robin williams, williams, Clarence Williams the third. From the mod squad. Amanda very few words. When i was a kid growing up in ohio very few blocks on tv. He was one of the stars of the mod squad amanda very very few words on that show. So when i was on the set when i see him i went over to him and i said excuse me mr. Williams, but when i was a kid i used to watch you and i was so inspired. Ive seen you on tv. And im just excited that you are a part of this movie. He was wearing sunglasses. He said and he turns to me and says cool. [laughter] and that was it. End of conversation. That oprah was a pal onset . Yes. She was filming a segment for her show. And she came down the hallway. I was standing someplace on the movie set. And she said this is the guy who started it all. Good for her for even knowing because most would not even care. That she did for her book club. Good point and she cared. What did you tell us before . Eight oscar winners were in the movie . Thats a lot by any standard. It was seven or eight but more oscar winners appeared in the butler than any other movie ever made. There is your trivia questio question. Again talking before the show we should have a show before the show like the makeup room. The greatest conversations go on but the movie was based on an article that you wrote. You wrote the article, it appears, the next day what happened . The next day i had received calls from seven Movie Companies said that happens every day doesnt it . [laughter] you write about those redskins. [laughter] and you had aspirations to be an actor when you were a child . That my first introduction to hollywood was i wrote a biography 450 page biography of sammy davis junior. I get a phone call from my agent who says, can you go to new york city next week and meet an actor who wants to direct your sammy davis junior book and make it into a movie. I said who is the actor . She said denzel washington. So i said let me check my calendar. [laughter] i said yes. Of course. So i go to new york and meet with him. And at the end of this reading which lasted about two hours , he wanted to go out and get something to eat. I said wait. You walking down the street in soho it will be people stopping you every five minutes. And he said well, just follow me. I walk extremely fast. By the time somebody says excuse me im gone. [laughter] so thats what he did. He mentioned that he wanted me to write the script. So for the next year and a half i worked on the script. He came here to washington dc one day and wanted to me and he mentioned this exclusive exclusive restaurant he wanted to go to to take me for lunch. And i said im sorry. But this is washington dc. The place will be packed and we wont be able to get in there. He looked at me and said oh yes we will. [laughter] he is so cool. [laughter] he just got out of the car and walked right in. [laughter] here is a table for you right over here. [laughter] do you remember the restaurant . I cannot think of it but the chef came out and gave him a box of steak knives. That happens to me all the time when i go to ruby tuesday tuesdays. [laughter] really elegant steak knives. [laughter] so anyway and the option dropped he wasnt able to make the movie. But now lee daniels and tom hanks have the rights to my sammy davis junior. You just slum that. [laughter] hanging out. It is fabulous. So now lets get to tiger land youve written about all of these incredible figures in history. What made you tell us about the personal connection who went to watch a guy named lamarr play basketball . How did you get onto the story cracks a very basic set up, 1969 columbus ohio, deeply troubled times, should have been desegregated but certainly was not. A very segregated community how did you write the story . When i was a little kid living on the north side. You are the aspiring athlete that coaches did not to recognize your brilliance. You did your research. [laughter] yes. I dreamed that i could possibly become an athlete. I love basketball. But i always got cut from the teams and it always had to go asked the coach for a second chance. I was cut from two teams and i asked the coach for a second chance. This is for something for students out there because they were so shocked and stunned that a player who had been cut had the audacity or the nerve to ask them for a second chance. But when i was 13 on the north side of the city it was integrated but you knew about this all black high school from the segregated eastside. My mother wasnt going to let me catch a city bus. Alone to go to the eastside. But the eastside Tiger Basketball Team would come to the fairgrounds c