Ladies and gentlemen, my name is lou hardy, im one of the cofounders [applause] bostonians [inaudible] and we do a lot of Educational Forums like this to talk about immigration. I want to welcome all the people that are assembled, i want to welcome everyone who may be watching on live stream and the people who are watching on cspan booktv. And i want to let you know that, despite the covid regulations in boston which used to be the cradle of liberty and we are now in lockdown all the time, but what were doing tonight is were skirting the law and were getting together for this wonderful event to talk about a very important book. More than 50 of it deals with immigration, both legal and illegal, and i would like everyone to welcome mr. Harlan hill and mr. Ryan girdusky. [applause] apparently im going to be doing marco rubio all night. [laughter] its very hot here in boston, but lets are get right to it. Harlan is a political consulling about the, an adviser to the [inaudible] weve seen him on cnn, on msnbc, on fox business and on fox news. And ryan is also a political consultant, hes a writer for the washington examiner, for the american conservative, i believe hes associate editor, and youve with seen husband work in human events x. This is their first book, and for a first book, lets give another round of applause. [applause] were going to get just right to the book. In prep for this interview, i spoke with steve bannon this afternoon, the guru of populism. And he said this is a great and essential primer on how we got here with a global view on the populist movement, a deep dive, and if you can believe it, steve bannon also said that he would read this on the beach. [laughter] okay. Ann coulder [inaudible] he has high praise on the jacket, she calls this a critically important book. J. D. Vance, author of hillbilly elegy, calls it intelligent and extremely real. And Michelle Malkin says buy e this book. [laughter] lets get going. The kid from queens and a young man from South Carolina writing about global populism, brexit, maga, the yellow vests. Ill just start by saying i actually started my career in politics as a democrat. And i made the transition to the Republican Party because i found that i, frankly, misunderstood what the Democratic Party stood for. I thought it was a party that would fight for Small Business owners. I thought it was a party that would fight to grow the wages and the working conditions of workers around the country. Nothing could be further from the truth. What we saw was that 2016 was a total, complete revolt against the forward interests that have tried to drive down wages whether its through globalization or ilLegal Immigration, and i retired traveling all over the country, ohio, pennsylvania, in the midwest, and i would see these gutted towns. And i would say this doesnt make sense. Somethings fundamentally wrong here. And elites in both parties, democrat and republican, said for decades for people to listen in washington, for the media elites to listen as their communities were shattered by opioids and immigration. And they were the told basically, shut up and learn how to cope. From a middle class, kf Blue Collar Community in queens. Im from one of the republican communities in queens, and i really didnt have a lot of position [inaudible] because i wasnt sort of political. Although i did tell my parents when i was 8 years old that i would vote for ross perot. [laughter] so i was populist at a very early age. And when i was in high school, i was a big protester against the iraq war. It still doesnt make sense to me. But i also saw the radical transformation of communities, and that was my really only inkling into politics. When i was 27, i was like, you know, a lot of people who write about this have never actually been on the campaign trail, they dont actually know what theyre talking about. So let me give a shot at it. I started writing for the washington examiner, and bill kristol was few coworker, a very hostile work situation [laughter] and i was the only person in a conservative institution who said trump was going to be the nominee and was going to win. I held to my gun, and i remember they would book me for these horrible radio shows. I remember this one in idaho, iheart radio, and it was like why do you hate this country so much that youre supporting trump. And i was like, seriously . But i wrote an article a year ago in april 2019 about the rise of national poppe lumbar because i care a lot about i noticed what was happening around the world and said, wow, this is not just here. And everything youre being told is kind of a lieu. This is just kind of frozen into one thing. So i, i wrote this article and then i said this could be a book, so me and harlan are, i called harlan, would you do this project with me, and he said yes. Now we have a book. Great. Mobility, education, corruption feature prominently in the early chapters of the book. Do you want to touch on them . Okay. So the book breaks up the book is Nine Chapters along. Its pretty readable. I dont have a college education. Harlan doesnt either no. So we made this as simple as possible for People Like Us to read. [laughter] this is not a book, you dont have to go to harvard, even though were right by here, to understand the book. No, the main point is so theres National Populism occurring on all six continents, and we break into a conversation of when was the first Real National populist leader elected to a national government, and it was 1998. That was almost 20 years before donald trump. But the reaction to trump and the reaction to brexit was so so how did e this happen, they couldnt understand what was going on that they werent paying attention to the signs, the things that were moving. And a big part of our philosophy is that politics doesnt in a bubble. So, you know, for instance, terrorism in the book, the 2001 World Trade Center bombings that happened in new york city and washington affected the elections of denmark and elected a national populist government in denmark, expect first thing they did and the first thing they did was a, quoteunquote, muslim ban. Everything we see is cyclical around the swire world. One of the entire world. Angola with the conned please, both african countries, angola has [inaudible] they are highly more effective at controlling immigration. Why . Because its not a matter of efficiency, its a matter of political power. Do you want to do this, not can you do this. So we talk on that, corrupt obviously, and we have a list of certain things that all national populist movements around the entire globe really kind of overlap. And maybe not all nine or ten of them, but a majority of those beliefs kind of overlap globally. Yeah. I mean, i think one of the biggest takeaways from this book that we havent talked about so far is the culture and the cultural war that weve lost. And it hasnt i almost wish that we could have written this book and released it three months from now because the shock waves that have happened over the last few months whether it was coronavirus or the rise that weve seen sweep every metropolitan area in the country thats run by a democrat. The republicans are fine, but the ones run by democrats are the problem. And i wish that we could have talked about this, because i think theres a tectonic shift in this country. What i think democrats are trying to do is theyre trying to leverage the advantage that they have in education, theyre trying to leverage the advantage they have in the cultural war, controlling and the news media, and they think that this is going to be an inflection point, this will be their trump movement, the rise that were seeing happening in the streets. And one thing that we talk about in the book that i think is brilliant is the medias obsessed with democratic representation, right . There are countless stories that, you know, that include, you know, you look at the phrase there arent enough women, there arent enough people of color, yet we have literally hundreds of millions [inaudible] now, when you drill down and look at the media and you ask yourself does the media really represent, does hollywood really represent, do newsrooms really represent the makeup of the American People . And you had referenced earlier that neither of us have a college degree. Yeah. But 92 of reporters in newsrooms around this country have a college degree. Yeah. Most americans dont. Yeah. [inaudible conversations] yeah, the media is, when they say the media doesnt represent america, what it is is the media i mean, we have all the breakdowns in the book. You probably is have it next to boy. [inaudible] im going to have to make numbers up. The medias far too white, too liberal, they live in too many different democratic cities, and they have a singular narrative. And theres no breaking that narrative. 72 of the Publishing Industry live in [inaudible] wherehill key won by more than where hillary won by more than 30 percentage points. That means these people dont know a trump voter. Is so no wonder they were surprised. They dont know a gun owner. [laughter] anytime there is a shooting happen and they talk about guns, they have never shot a gun before. Ar93. Theyre idiots. [laughter] the chain saw next to the ak47 . What world are these People Living in . But they dont know, i mean, go to washington and go even in conservative [inaudible] and try to find a churchgoing person who owns a gun and a truck. It is impossible. We show that 7 of newsrooms are republican. I dont even believe theyre republican like bill kristols republican. Exactly. [laughter] yeah. But, you know, you bring up the media, and theres an awful lot of interplay between government and media. We saw nbc work this week to try to deplatform a major conservative libertarian web site, the federalist, and we saw john bolton who left the Trump Administration who launched husband book and launched all his book and launched all kinds of attacks against the Prime Minister what about this intermix against the president. What about this intermix between the press and [inaudible] yeah. I think that heres the thing with the media, and i worked in media. Most media people in general are very good people. Your local beat reporter for the local newspaper is making 50,000 a year trying to get by and really downing it because he loves the news doing it because he loves the news. Theres really not a lot of money for most reporters, so how do you make a lot of money . You become a brand. Rachel maddow, Anderson Cooper is a brand. You know what you getting from them. Theyre selling you their gimmick. It is like nike or oreo cookies. It is the same thing ever time, and you know what youre going to get. It is worth it because you can get a book deal, you can get a television show, you can get a television contract, you can sit there and give speeches for lots and lots of money. [inaudible] yeah, right. [laughter] you become hacks like us. No. But you can really do it. Is so is if you have the dream of being a great reporter, its possible, and there are a few really good ones. None are coming to mind right now [laughter] actually, Jennifer Jacobs from bloomberg is a fabulous reporter. Shes not biased at all. I really dont know her politics, and i enjoy reading her. Jonathan [inaudible] is pretty good. But theyre fewer than anyone else, and the problem of social media makes it all the more visible how openly political they are. And we break this down in the books a couple times. You know, they used to get punished for saying things. Now youre getting career advances. Ben jacobs between tweeted how he wants to punch Young Conservatives at cpac, doesnt get fired. And then he tweeted a quote from donald trump were going to bring justice the way it used to be. People instantly thought he was talking about the klan, but the full quote said at the ballot box. And he specifically left at the ballot box. Why . Got more retweets. And its easier to spread a lie than the truth, and its not as sexy, so thats what they sit there and do. I screw up on my twitter all the time. Theres nothing wrong with screwing up, taking down a tweet and apologizing. They dont do that. You saw the covington schoolboys. That was as big of a hoax as russiagate. They literally tried to [inaudible] over the fact that they saw a picture and a 30second video, and they went wild. Let me tell you, so what happened with google demonetizing zero hedge in the federalist yesterday, anyone could have seen that coming. It started, i actually said this in an interview today the, it started with [inaudible] and everybody was willing to discount [inaudible] because theyre fringe and mainstream conservatives, the capitalist side. They got demonetized, they got deplatformed, they got thrown off facebook, twitter, whatever. Theyre crazy. And then its happened to breitbart. Thats been going on for years where theyve been making it very hard for breitbart to make money on their traffic. Now were seeing a total demontyization from googles perspective of the federalist and zero hedge. Whats next . Its going to be the daily caller, its going to be the washington examiner, its going to be fox news. So then they started on the fringes, but theyre working their way to the middle. And now you cant even wear a tshirt for a conservative news channel without having your career threatened, without having people threaten the lives of your family. Its completely unhinged. So, yeah, theyre going to go after our pocketbooks. Whether that means youre a supporter of conservative media by trying to shame you into the shadows, shame you for supporting that network or the network themselves, theyre going to make it impossible for you to learn to earn a living on the traffic you have. And thats a problem for all of us, because on top of that, the social Media Networks are making it impossible to get our message out. When we were going to promote the book, we wrote these facebook ads, got totally rejected with zero explanation. Zero. Ive appealed it. Well see if we get out of it. But because we said National Populism and some other i keywords, they said, no, we dont want to run those ads. I think an important statistic we bring out, i mentioned this yesterday on tucker carlson, is that were having a conversation right now about the antiracist movement, about what words are triggering, what is the truth going on in our country. And we bring up the statistics in this book is that around 2007 certain words like whiteness, like racist, like White Privilege and social justice, all that terminology exploded in the average content in most major news outlets x. So without even seeing it, we were fore noticing it, we were being inundated with conversation that we werent really having. And we hadnt reflected on what was actually going on, the actual truth in our country. And i think that is Something Else thats very stunning. These people who kind of took over the University System with woke terminology. I remember when i was in college for the first time, i was like youre joking, right . Thats not a real thing. And this is never going to be wide sprea. D but they mauved from the moved from the colleges into the media, and they slowly took over that entire institution, and thats really what were seeing now come through. We certainly know that being in such a Great College town of boston. [laughter] [inaudible] spain is besieged, italy is besieged by ship after ship of refugees landing on beaches. Nigel farage is meeting boat loads in the English Channel and calling in the coast guard to no avail, and we have over 7,000 aliens a year that are arrested on our southern border trying to cross from mechanic coe. Never mind mexico. Never mind mexican and Central American [inaudible] ilLegal Immigration mix up well over half of this book, and talking about immigration. Immigration. Yeah, yeah. So lets just talk about bostons a sanctuary city. Our neighborhoods have been plagued by fentanyl. Our children have been caught up in adduction and overdoses addiction and overdoses and crime, and it really, i think, has a lot of people around here certainly know the pain of ilLegal Immigration because of the drug crisis. Were one of the worst states in the country. Can you talk about, how all Legal Immigration and crime have gone together . Okay. So the book breaks up immigration into four sections. Youre talking about crime, the economy and culture. Those are the three ways we break down Legal Immigration. So when it comes to the situation in europe and what we mentioned before is we dont live in a bubble. So in the United States and several of our western allies try to overthrow assad in syria, what happened . There was massive waves of ilLegal Immigration into europe. One thing always affects the orr. The Swiss Peoples Party that has been leading the government since 1999 became the lead party because we saw [inaudible] kosovo, and refugees caused a backlash are. So lets move to the United States with. In the United States, you have a situation that when it comes to crime, the problem detailing the United States and crime when it comes to immigration is we have very, very little draw eta. In a nation like denmark, for example, they will tell you someone is a criminal is the child of a legal immigrant. In the United States we break down between citizen and noncitizen, so its very, very hard to understand. Noncitizens are underrepresented in certain crimes, like they are underrepresented in murder, but they are overrepresented in many, many, many crimes like