How have you been. We call ourselves partners in crime. That we are not going to talk about the crime part of it, just to the partner part. What has been interesting since ive been in the position of library of congress is the fact that people ask me what does the National Archives do. What does the archivist do a and then theres a confusion around the history and the role of each of the institutions, and ive learned a lot about that even in coming up to reclaim the declaration of independence, the bill of rights. We call it the constitution. And that was held by the library of congress and the type of thing. It wasnt until the 1930s the United States got serious about its records. Iwas Franklin Roosevelt was passionate about records and that we actually created and he signed the legislation that created the archives. The charters had been in the custody of the state department independent of library of congress when the archives building was built, a beautiful tabernacle was created for the declaration of independence but the library of congress refused. [laughter] and i told her that against you ever since. I knew this was going to happen. It wasnt until he read truman came into office and kind of laid down the law with a new library of congress but they really needed to deliver the document where it belongs. So as carla describes it, it was a ceremony with tanks and military people lining up the set and she claims she always describes it as a transfer of the document to its rightful place. And we have photographs of the people right there waiting. You can imagine the curators and the librarians thinking maybe its time. And who was the library in . I forget. Someone here must remember. Winston is here. You were here, whats [laughter] that was the start of kind of the clarification to divide things. It was to collect and protect and make available so anything created by the governments of the question is what about the stuff creativity for when the legislation was signed. Some of it is that the library of Congress Since the materials were stored in attics and basements some of it was lost but what we have now is the a dividing line between everything the government creates and everything they dont create which is you. And there are times when im glad that you are you. [laughter] and there are times that i wish i were you. [laughter] i describe it in another way, to back that for instance truman and his official record and i would like to get into those things into some of the letters that he wrote to his family. So this is where the the personal part and personal life event official might be other library of congress. So the papers 23 president s from George Washington to coolidge are apt the library and we were both in mississippi. Where ulysses s. Grant and Abraham Lincoln collection. There are more than 200 president ial sites around the country and the people beyond had some kind of responsibility for some aspect of a president s life and their meeting in washington in august. Whats interesting about the president ial library of congress has custody of the actual papers and documents of ulysses s. Grant and what they will collect and make copies of a. So when h so when he created the archives, he also decided to have a president ial libraries are technically his was the first. I am convinced he was passionate about his papers and understood the importance and a spent a lot of time hiring the first archivist and spent a lot of time supporting the first in his work as he was trying to figure out where the records are and more importantly to convince the agency heads to give up the records if that is something people were interested in doing. So, roosevelt created his own library that this was all voluntary up until 1972 when thanks to president s nixon and hayes thought that he owned his own records and legislation was passed needed Government Property so 1972 is kind of the marker that you have to give your papers to the National Archives. So it became official. That is another confusion that happens. The act of 1972 was created earlier than that and its a Records Management activities so all of the 275 agencies and departments. We provided by a gentlemans agreement to way back when, we provide storage and service them, they are the records of congress. I want all the people watching and listening to realize working with your colleagues you have this kind of friendly and historical competition. I know youve seen that movie national treasure, but they have that first printing that just had john hancock on it. The originals didnt find something. And the gettysburg address that he took on the field, what he took the night he was assassinated, for locks of Thomas Jeffersons hair. [laughter] so it is kind of fun to have this historical back and forth. Tommy marx has some historical artifacts as well. From the vatican. [laughter] there are few things over there. Then this body would bring up hamilton. Okay lets bring up hamilton. Its through the New York Public Library actually. Tommy was the director of hamilton, was a member for the libraries visiting committee and he and i became good friends and when we decided to honor ron chernoff, we had all three of them in the house. We are just going to let that go. And we just digitized the last note to his wife. [laughter] [applause] outlining the poverty asking for support from the government. And for the rest of her life when she did this to his reputation. So we can go on you just name a historical figure. So what are we doing together . We are doing some cool stuff. We are working on a turkic exhibit tracing the role i think you are involved in the. Another project about the beginnings of the country. We are calling it the two georges. They were reading some of the same books at the same time and they had similar interests so it will be a joint exhibits with the archives. The research timing didnt coincide. But Kings College of william and mary so that type of collaboration happens all the time. We mentioned tony marx because in terms of a Public Library, it had a collection that complements some of the things that were involved. This is the library that we worked closely with in different ways. So, the question people have asked me already, and it came up at a session, one of the sessions what do we do and how do we deal with Technology Going forward . Some of the records are going to be in a different format. You have been on the forefront of god with your putting a hard stop on collecting. I am sure that you pretend about the president s reform plan that was issued if you go to page 103, you will see the description of the contribution to that plan and what it spells out is a message we have already delivered to the agencies. We are no longer accepting paper at the end of 2022. They have until 2022 to get the paper to us. Its scheduled to be transferred after 2022 its a digital only. So the agencies have been prepared for this. Many of them have been digitizing the records. Of those agencies already are creating the records electronically and if they have been for quite some time so this is not a great surprise or shock and just as a data point as i know there are some people who are confused about whats going on with the planning for the Obama Library more than 80 of the records are born digital. There is no paper equivalent. So, the plan is with the agreement of the foundation, we would create the first alldigital president ial library. Its the money that would have been invested in creating a physical facility in chicago is going to be devoted to digital station of the 15 that isnt already digital and thats already a different model and how we deliver Information Service and an opportunity for creating and connecting with other users. Are you going to be borrowing some techniques. We would loan to them artifacts. Its paper from photographs endquotes of artifacts. Gifts from the american people, more macaroni pictures than youve ever seen in your life. [laughter] about letters from young people . Those are digitized now. When i met with the directors the first time a echidna tkidwrote to the presidg for information about the proposed core and its a letter from me. [laughter] they found two letters and when i visited the library, they gave me a copy of the letter that i sent to lbj come graduating at refining the act. David was working on this for a while. [applause] [laughter] [applause] is an opportunity for the kids to write a letter to the president and we deliver those to the president on the next monday morning and the white house then supplies us a letter we can send back to them for their interest. Thereve been wonderful moments and things that have been challenging, but one of the most challenging has been trying to figure out as a former childrens librarian how i can take this wonderful thing that you do with children and archives, they sweep over by the constitution. [laughter] in that wonderful place where they are. Its night and they are really having fun. Then the next morning, and ive heard so many people tell me this. You know the archivist of the United States makes pancake. [laughter] so now dont worry. We have Thomas Jeffersons recipe for macaroni and cheese. This is really true. I said okay maybe we can make this [laughter] [inaudible] we have a new gang of three, via four and five. So there is now the gang of three. Its david, it david and carla hayden, the archives and library we met and talk about this and we might have but if the kids stored at the National History museum and all that stuff. Or they slept there. So we are trying to figure this out. You didnt mention the fact that an important thing that we should talk about and a close working relationship with the three of us had which is unlike ive been there for eight years almost nine years now and this is the first time the three institutions have gotten serious about working together. And its fun because when i invited her to davids over to the library of congress for this lunch and of course our curators and librarians put out a good silverware. We knew that this david was then offered we had them bring out these things. It was the first printing for the opera, which ive never even heard of. He never heard of it. And then david sorkin is a jazz fanatics so we brought out the strings we have just received. And then the curator, who was so good, he knew opera and jazz, and he sang. He had the Chicken Salad thing and all that, it was nice. [laughter] the curator had a piece by a man known for jazz and merged the two types of music, because Jelly Roll Morton dead and opera or something, so he just slid right into that. Now, david, and i think that we can reveal this, wanted to get the card of the curator of a. A. I had to talk to the guy afterwards. Its a lot of fun. We are doing the next one. The pressure is on about what are we going to show you. Womens suffrage is coming up and he had a lot of things. We were giving an exhibit and we even talked about it and mentioned you had some pretty cool things. His book on the right brothers was based on that and then got model plane so we are looking to see what are some of the things that we have that each of us can bring to gather for special exhibits to put things when one is having an exhibit and event to put it into our own institutions. In the smithsonian we were pleased. To purchase the first known photograph of Herriot Tubman and its going to be exhibited. They took care of it and its going to be on exhibit at the new museum of africanamerican history. [applause] we will see more of that. Its always fun. [laughter] [laughter] tony is over here going a [laughter] tony was like abi still live in baltimore. That says it all. And i commute. Its really interesting because ive lived in other, when i lived in chicago there were so many commuters that came in, people would come in to chicago from gary indiana every day. The idea that people come in from different states, different places every day and ive taken the train now and you see how many people come in to the city and its like elastic. I didnt get a sense of that before. You go in and you say, there are people who live there, theres an energy there that is similar to new york were you going to new york and you just feel a pace and it changes and thats why when i go back to baltimore have the Baltimore Highlands and its different. There are a lot of young people in baltimore. And they all walk fast. [laughter] they have two or three devices. They are all smart and all passionate about what they are doing its really rewarding. The brainpower is there. You probably already do it . What is it . Another idea stolen from us . Yes. [laughter] were in a talk briefly about one and a talk public about the citizen archivist in the sitting story. We are working on, you have in washington dc literally some of the brightest, smartest young people you will ever meet and they are, some look like they are 12 years old and they are policy, they are just something. Weve tried to think of how can we get these young millennial sum of the amount of the millennials, engaged because they are so smart. Weve had scavenger hunts and jeopardy and some really cool things to engage them. We have libations sometimes and things like that but. Yes. Thomas jefferson was a wine connoisseur. [laughter] we work it. [laughter] to get these young people engaged in things that because they want to still learn, a lot of them are coming from these colleges and right out of college and still at georgetown and doing all this stuff. They will sit and listen to someone talk about something or an author or someone. They want to meet people. One young congressional staffer said, you know, this is like date night to go do Something Like a film in the summer, free popcorn how about that . [laughter] free popcorn. Free, on the lawn, with the machine, not just a oh my god with the machine too. [laughter] then they get to see, i think we might have you a little bit on that. I dont think so. [laughter] not fundraising. This is an idea i talk from your Public Library of the young lions of similar kind of group really interested in the library, been in existence for like 25 years or so. Some funding and award, Fiction Award for young author. I took that idea to the National Archives and we have a group, Similar Group we are working with, the young Founder Society should engage them in the life of the National Archives. This is a group of folks who drawn in all different directions, the beginning of the focus is the challenge. We dont have a name yet we are working on that. I like young founders but thats the good thing. We are working on how we can get this a group and its going to be really actually its the same group of kids for young people. Prop hauch will be going to these types of things. If you have literature you want me to share with my group. Lets talk about your citizen archivist. We took it almost verbatim and made it citizen historian because of the transcription of things. So when i was hired in 2009 by president obama on his first day in office he told his senior staff that the government doesnt have all the answers and we need to figure out ways to engage the American Public in solving some of those problems. I took that to heart and work with the staff to think about ways that we could engage the American Public in the work that we do and the result was the creation of this citizen archivist dashboard which has a number of activities that you can help us do our work, taking photographs, identifying come of this has become fairly standard now identifying people and places and photographs. The centerpiece the thing im most excited about is the transcription project we have going on where we loaded thousands of records, kids are being taught cursive really and i have billions of records in cursive so we are disenfranchising an entire generation and future generations because they cant read this stuff. We are people all over the country, all over the world who are helping us transcribe in this citizen archivist dashboard activity. So thats the way we are trying to engage the public in helping do our work. And we just put citizen historian and ticket because the model is so great and there is the same need at the library of congress, Susan B Anthonys papers, all these people, frederick douglass, some of the things that are in cursive that literally young people and because of the writings sometimes other people can read these documents. So the library of congress is launching citizen historian and we reference and say it started with the National Archives citizen archivist because we want people that are doing want to think about doing the other too. Were also working together on her history of site with our reference folks sharing collaborating providing Reference Service to anyone who has a particular reference question. We are fielding and sharing information from our own collections to solve the Research Needs of the people using history hub. That is another, we are bringing the smithsonian on board with that also. I noticed your folks are at the National Archives last week for an edit on wikipedia editathon. We are working together. Yes. I also want to share what i know weve talked about a little bit, the concern about history Going Forward and records being created digitally and how we deal with storage issues, security, technology, keeping up in the future and its a real concern at times that future historians how will they get these items as history is being made in a different format . Its the one thing of all the things that keep me up at night. Thats the one that k