Group everybody together as the same and what america forgets about is at the rugged individualism, its very difficult for us to look at the case, lets just say in minneapolis were george floyd died and Law Enforcement, the first thing we think about we think about, he was a black guy, it was a white Law Enforcement officer. That tells me everything i need to know about why this took place. What happens is when you try to make it an issue that an individual died was black and the person whos responsible for it was white, you eliminate other human beings who should also have the same moral outrage, too much of our time today is spent on this herd mentality. Everybody is an individual first and that individual is solely responsible for that action. We should not be outraged because the race of the person thats the fact that this individual died in a very gruesome and brutal way for no reason at all because what happens is that individual dies it takes away some of our humanity and who we are and while it might happen to someone whos george floyd yesterday its a matter of time before, comes abbecomes us. The moral outrage abyou look at me and look at and you say armstrong is a black guy people know me know that i refuse to rent space to that i am a black guy im a human being, im an american im the son of james and thelma williams. You have to get to know me extend your hand and say hi let us get to know each other. We are individuals because you ask yourself why is it that 80 to 90 of Law Enforcement officers do not commit these kind of heinous crimes and these acts its because they understand response ability, accountability, they know how to deescalate the situation we got to get away of group thinking and start looking at people as individuals and get outrage not because the color of their skin but outrage of what took place. You right in your book and im quoting you that there is no real biological feature to race, its instead a social construct used in all sorts of negative ways based on nothing more than preposition to label rank and discriminate among each other primarily in the contest for wealth and power, can you expand on that . Unfortunately if it were not race it could be poverty, it can be class, it could be socioeconomic background, there are institutions, corporations who take this organization which goes on in our country and profit from it, they profit leaders who make their names they make their way of lives as a result of this Racial Division and they want us to believe that we all are the same that we are bigoted, racist and cannot judge someone like Martin Luther king said not by the content of their character but by the color of their skin. This morning aand i were in the studio i was doing a Facebook Live in the background i had a carbon cutout of former president barack obama and his challenger john mccain and people on my Facebook Live ab i was being asked so much as to why would you have barack obama in the background, what is that about . I said wait a minute, that election represented the progress of america. It showed that most americans have moved beyond this issue of race and bigotry and put people in a box. Barack obama did not win the white house because he was black, he won because they felt he had the best ideas, the best policies for the times which we found ourselves and and what barack obama and john mccain represented to us is that this america remains the city on the hill. Just because somebody agrees a aand had to go to with his policies and decisions he takes. When i explained to them, this is a situation of athere is no other place in any world where a manlike former president barack obama can rise in a country and become president of the United States. We dont talk about that progress enough. When i explained this to them there was this moment like, we are not as racist as they make us seem. You have to make people understand every thing is not black and white just because i have this cut out cardboard of barack obama and john mccain in my background. You referenced george floyd, other people with reference jacob lake, breonna taylor, they would attribute this to the concept of systematic racism. What is your take on that . I grew up in marion South Carolina, which had a huge effect on my life and how i view the world. Those helicon days of with my father and mother and nine brothers and my sisters are the continuous blessing that has fueled the arc of my life now into this Public Square of political, commerce and media. The thing is, its what i said earlier. Its not because they were black, its because nobody should be treated this way. No one should lose their humanity, nobody should be ending up dead and all of a sudden 2 00 a. M. They wake up to a hail of a gunfire and dies for no reason. It shouldnt take five or six months for the community to get outraged and the community to be outraged to bring justice to the system. Unfortunately, i would be foolish not to admit you cannot ignore that there is a systemic racism and racism does exist. It resides in peoples heart because we look at certain people you say, that person is black, this group of black people together they must be criminal, they must play basketball and then he looked at a group of white they must come from the suburbs they must have rich parents and we make all the stereotypes that we make these judgments because these judgments are fed to us by the Mainstream Media by what we read and also some people still feel the generational racism and feed it to their children played out in the classroom and played out in Larger Society. What my parents for me my parents, we did not drink from a trough of racism and bigotry and discrimination. Even though my parents, who grew up in a segregated sharecroppers firm, by the time we were born were able to buy the land where we could work for our parents and not work for what they call the man my parents realize even though we we might want to judge with a broad brush, people are not good because theyre white theyre not good because theyre black, theyre good because the character, virtue, values, what they choose to do them a discipline, hard work, sacrifice, making a difference to children to raise good families and be involved in their sons and daughters lives. This has to do with character and having a value system in place and character in place that gives your children the best shot at becoming conservative citizens to this american melting pot. We try to take everything about race, everything about gender, we lose the true perspective of human thriving aband freedom isnt perfect human thriving is imperfect. Were not can ever have perfect. Everything is in perfect. Its always abut we must admit as i mentioned with the story with president barack obama, america is still the shining city on the hill. America is no longer the great place it once was but america still is because we are still a young country, still an experiment and we have made phenomenal progress and that progress we should always celebrate. If you want to talk to our guest Armstrong Williams, 2027488000 for eastern and central time zones. 2027488001 for the mountain and pacific time zones. You can text us at 2027488003. We will have a chance to talk with our guest for the hour, will take a brief break at 9 30 p. M. But you are talking with Armstrong Williams, radio tv talkshow host and author of what black and White America must do now prescription to move beyond race. Rosemarie starts us off from florida. You are on with Armstrong Williams, good morning. Mr. Williams i would just like to say you have a lot of good points on what you are saying. Keep going, you are probably listening to yourself. Im so sorry. Mr. Williams, i was very interested in the last speaker you had, mr. Brian, im very interested because you are saying everything is not about race, which its not but things become about race. Thats the problem. When things become about race because of the color of your skin, or things happen to you, tragic things happen to you or you do something tragic because of race and then because of your race then you are being judged, then that makes it about race. I came from a wonderful big family that didnt teach me racism, i remember all of those things i was a product of the 60s i could not understand all the hatred and bigotry because i was not introduced to that in my family. When i came into the world and i saw those things, i was appalled about however it came. Now its 2020, we still have this racist problem. Yet, sir, it is mostly director to people of color. I respect you very much but its obvious that its directed more to people of color. Okay rosemarie, thank you very much. My father taught us that you cannot group people together, he wanted us to have a different experience than the ones that he and his forefather had endured and from your perspective, im going to challenge you a little bit, thank you so much for what you had to say. What you say is true i would not argue with that because that is your perspective, thats what youve seen, that is what you have experienced. But dependent on where you are in america and depends on what you are exposed to, your experiences can be quite different. Yes there is no question if sonja white decides to make a judgment about you because of your race whether Law Enforcement officer, somebody in the grocery store, someone in the shopping store once a profile you because they make these assumptions that have been reinforced by something thats happened to them in their life, something theyve been told, yes they have power to impact your life but theyre not the only ones to have that power. Black asians hispanics anybody else whos in a position of power can also make the same judgment about somebody else based on their own stereotype. This is why i said to you that your experiences, you cannot argue with it, you can say i was in stamford connecticut over the weekend i was reminded that during my days at the eeoc which i forgot about when i worked with justice frantz thomas that we been forced the Greenwich Fire Department to integrate, they did not want to have blacks. Obviously that was about race, people make these judgments and it so ignorant. But the issue is, you cannot Group Everybody the same. Lets say if you had a situation where you learned your daughter had been raped by someone who happens to be white. Would it be fair but the next day you run into somebody white you assume that all have the capability of raping your daughter . That person could be the most pathetic and experience the things they experience, they may have experiences with their own daughter may have been raped or a situation so what im saying to you even though you have that hurt, you have that pain, you cannot take that pain and make a decision that every group is the same because it breaks my heart when people use headlines in the media they make blacks out to be in bottling drugs, the criminal, black people are so much more than that. They are in corporate america, in medicine, parents are raising kids that thrive and do well in classrooms, they have this moral compass, this strong faith in god, their church, their communities, no group of people should be grouped together no matter what happens to you. My point is, we have to get back to the individual personal responsibility, accountability because until we get back to dealing with this instead of saying evereadys capable because they looked that way just like not all white people are serial rapists, not all muslims are terrorists, we get into this group thing and this is what the media and other institutions have conditioned us for. Im saying if we get back to judging abmaking the individual accountable and meeting the punishment for that individual i think we move toward progress. Also in the Justice System whether prosecutors whether the courtroom, even Law Enforcement in the courtroom and the prosecutors cannot protect people because of the class or because a relationship doesnt matter to me who was committing the crime, whatever the law is on the books, nobody should have a path from two crime. The beautiful thing we respect on death and nature is that it treats everybody the same. Nobody gets a pass. Mankind must derive to become like that and when people begin to see where everybody is treated the same and equality there is a possibility for equality for all even though people make different choices in life, god makes us all equal but we make unequal decisions and make unequal choices but let that be for the individual and their own personal dont allow law and the courts and institutions to be a part of that thats the role that government, the government can put laws in the book to stop this, nation to a certain extent but government cannot legislate much in a persons heart. Thats a journey we must do ourselves the hardest work what i do every day the hardest work i do is working on myself 24 hours a day and thats what people refers to do. We look at the problem somebody else has i find that when i work on myself 24 hours a day the world automatically improves around me. Let me step in to introduce richard from albuquerque new mexico, hello. First of all, i want to Say Something here. You must be a democrat eventually because you are confused. All these crimes and all these corruptions have been in democratic states. The leaders are democrats, bro. You have to deal with your own people there. The blacks back in the slavery days were republicans. How can you talk the way you do and consider yourself a democrat yet there was a republican that said set the slaves free. All the republicans have the civil rights movement. Harriet tubman was a republican. All these people here that are are democrats are confused. We will let our guests respond. I think hes clearly must understanding what im trying to communicate this morning. Im a thirdgeneration republican, my family never left the party of the lincoln and while you may point out the fact that a lot of this protests and chaos taking place are in states where you have strong democratic leadership many people may conclude that what use must also conclude a lot of states we have democrat mayors, governors and Law Enforcement where this is not taking place. I dont think this is happening because the mayor or governor happens to be a democrat, i just think these leaders believe that somehow or another they can engage protesters these looters and come to reasonableness but a lot of these spoiled kids or spoiled brats dont know what they are protesting and why they want to burn down certain areas of america, so point is, they are not doing it because there democrats, look at what happened to the mayor of portland where he had to come around to realize now they want to burn his house down because he could never reason with people who take socialism over capitalism who despise the america way of life. They want basic things for free, they dont want to work for it. The kenny britt respect the farmers and the ethics and the sacrifice is for office to be where we are now. What they do in their rebellious way they protest in a way they feel their answer is to destroy businesses. What the mayors of these governors of the states have to realize is that you cannot reason with this and you got to enforce the law and say whatever you want to say about President Trump but Law Enforcement is very important to endless craziness about defunding police, can you imagine the police are the pillars of our community the pillars of our society. They are the ones that keep law and order and this is exactly what these people call themselves antifa and have no interest in the progress of america. All they want is chaos. I would say there are fraction of the protests, most of these protesters want good they want to see obviously these people are being brainwashed, youve got to follow the money trail but obviously their intentions are no good and the we must boot them out and punish them to the fullest extent of their law immaculate said because the state has caved into this and succumb to these protesters that its because there democrats, its a lack of leadership a lack of character and lack of understanding that no one respects leadership. You have to enforce the law. Your last comment, i must say, you have gained my respect because the previous speaker really did not but in both speakers im hearing a lot of passion and racial competency. Im going to read out these number, number of homicides in major cities, im getting out exactly what you just punched, black lives matters, kudos, but when there is black on black crime where is black lives matter . Where is protesting . Where are the black people up in arms when our sons kill our other songs, black on black crimes. I think we all need to focus on, its not just when Police Officers shoot black males in the back, its also when our own sons shoot our own sons in the back. Please Pay Attention to that everyone, lets stay focused on the real problem and its just violence in general. I think he is spot on. All lives matter. We talked about black lives matter, listen, americans are in this together. Whether you want to like it or not are respected or not. You cannot escape whatever is befallen to america but falls to you and we got to respect and honor and protect all lives, all circumstances. That is the human experiment. That is the moral striving we must all engage ourselves in. You must not say because somebody is white they cannot understand young black kid dying for no reason in chicago and continuing to die and they cannot participate in this. I may have never given birth to a child because im a man but i can certainly from talking to women and experiencing with them and talking to them and being in the labor room i can get a feel and compassion and understand the labor that person endured. I dont necessarily directly have to lose a child or be the victim of these movements or having my business is burnt down because ive had this human experience. Ive lived, i read, ive seen and experienced so many things that we have the compassion, thats why i feel so strongly about this. We dont feel because we are black, we dont cry because we are black, we dont get angry and upset because we are black and white is because were human beings, thats what g