Side and thats the side thatans good for you know better how to spend your money and you know best what your family needs than that of politicians and of my main issues are health care, bringing it to the truth, and theen environment. Host tell us about your experiences running for president. You are on the show back in july. Tell us about how the campaign and how this process running for president has been for you from then until now. Guest we have a tour bus with my name painted a little too big on the side and together we have spent 47 states Something Like that between me and my running mate and we see huge crowds everywhere we go. I have a couple hundred people with as many as over 400 of the 500 people and a lot of people are from the party and thats whats so amazing. Some of our earlier crises when we could talk to people. My Deputy Campaign manager would go out and ask people this anybody want to work for the party we can sign you up and we are shocked at threequarters of each of the groups that we are speaking to were not members of the party and about 75 of the volunteers on the Campaign Staff are from the Libertarian Party so it shows that its broken and we need change. Host looking at the campaign there are only three candidates that are on the ballot in all 50 states. Thats President Trump, democratic candidate joe biden and you but you werent invited to the president ial debate. What was that about . Guest asked them. I think they didnt want people to know that theres a real alternative to coast to keep hearing people say well to old rich white guys and i would say thats the least of our problems. The real problem is that both want to make decisions for us and neither one has the answer for question on the health care neither one of them will bring the troops some so id be the only real alternative. Host what is your message to the Debate Commission and what type, first of all did they ever say anything to you about why you werent invited to the debate and what is it for future debates . I just reached 15 but in order to reach 15 in certain polls you have to be in the polls. In 2016 when gary johnson was gatheir president ial nominee he was included in the polls early and often and he got as high as 13. 6 . I look at those numbers and i think we can get a boost from that so when it came to this time to be in the polls i think the powers that be decided you know what 13. 6 is dangerously close to 15 . Thats what they did. My name wasnt even the polls so it was impossible for me to get on the debate stage. Further my name is not getting out there because in 2015 people would say im picky and the internet in the newspapers would say here at the pulse trump carrie and heres somebody else running. Let me check them out. We didnt get my name out there and thats the problem with the democrats and republicans is that its an Old Boys Club and they c only want them to be in e game and they arent allowing anybody. Thats part of the libertarian message is that once people get power if they want more they say we have to take power away from the democrats and the republicans. Post to let me remind ourti viewers that they can join in on the conversation. We will open up our regular lines and that means republicans you are 202 7488001 democrats 20274880000 independence Independence Airlines 202 7488002 and we are going tor open up a special line for Libertarian Party members put Libertarian Party members like to hear from you 202748003. Member you can text us at 202 7488003 and we are always on social media twitter is cspan wj and facebook and facebook. Com cspan. Jo talked a couple of times about Gary Johnsons run in 2016. Has the Libertarian Party increased to this and how many members are counted as part of the Libertarian Party right now . I havent kept up with that but we are increasing and that was part of it when i was campaigning for the nomination that i would increase membership butrs i can tell you that 75 of the people and in our campaign are from outside the party so i know we are increasing the movement. Usually what happens is people join after the election so we will have a better idea of the numbers in a couple of months. Host while you are going around the nation are you seeing more people showing up seeing that they are Libertarian Party members . I know people are signing up insolutely. As i mentioned was surprising to see how many people were from outside the party. Host what you hearing from those voters that the reason they want to be part of Libertarian Movement and what are you hearing from me in members the United States would have a telling you . Guest ive heard a lot of people recently especially in california that they were covering democrats and i couldnt believe the number of people who said that. They are not even coming up to me and saying this particular issue or that particular issue. But they are saying is theres a general lack of a sense of control and they feel like they dont have control over theirfe lives. They dont understand where that not getting ahead in the job market and they dont understand all the student debt that they have but somehow they feel like they are not getting anywhere. Government has put all these obstacles in the way. Host speaking of student debt we just got a question from one of our social media followers. She has a question about it and they say Student Loans are the worst example of a government tyranny in the nation in my humble opinion. Id hope joe can get us out of the Student Loans but what also she canceled the debt to ask what is her solution to the Big Government student debt crisis . Guest i wouldnt cancel the debt and my heart just broke for the father and by the way Elizabeth Warren im sure all your viewers know wanted to forgive all the debt. He came up and he said you know i worked a second job to give my kids through school. We work so hard so we wouldnt have to take out a student loan. Meanwhile my neighbor took out a student loan and they bought a new car and went on vacation. You are going to get money and i dont get money . She was like yeah thatsge righ. I said well wheres my money . The answer was as kind of like tough luck. I think americans see that as very unfair. Why shouldnt a guy who works a second job i mean essentially if they. Off Student Loans neighbor would basically be taking money from the government to buy a new car or. On vacation. What i would do however is i would make the loans bankruptcy bull. Right now of course thats the way government works. They say hey of your corporation no problem. Somebody can declare bankruptcy. We are the government, you have to pay off and i would say predatory practices. You have 18yearolds whose brains arent fully developed and they wont be until after they graduate coming up for very of adult thing who are now left in the dust. People asked me why im running for president and i say its because government is to big and too intrusive but the worst thing is it hurts the people there trying to help. The government comesug along and says lets make it easier so they flood the market with money which any economist would correctly predict that the prices would go up and thats exactly what happens. Lets let our viewers join n on this conversation but lets start with randy from alabama on the independent line. Randy, good morning. Caller good morning. How are you all doing this morning . Host go ahead randy were on the air. Caller i want to ask her they always talk about the current allies in drugs and so forth. Why would you want to decriminalize something thats killing millions and millions of people . You have people like this lady here setting up that comment. Stuff like that doesnt even make sense in this country. Im so sorry to hear of your lots and my heart breaks for you. This is exactly why i want to decriminalize. I asked voters what is the last time you heard that the Liquor Store Owner trying to push jen on High School Students and the last time you heard a faint addict break into houses to support a vodka happen went so last time you you incurred the Liquor Store Owners having a shootout. Those are not drug problems. But now we have people being shot a gangs innocent bystanders because of the vision problem. I would suggest if you have family members who were killed or who died from drugs first of all its probable that those folks were pushed on them perhaps at a young age because thats whats done for the profit motive. Again you dont see Liquor Store Owners trying to push liquor or gender bourbon on 12 or 15yearolds or 18yearolds because its legal. Also the Opioid Crisis we had its absurd because so many people could have had their pain solved with marijuana which is safer than bourbon or jen and last i was on a podcast in which the host said we can legalize marijuana but we are going to legalize that because math is horrible. I dont want an extra neighbor to have a meth house. There are toxins in their antigen dangerous exposure to the kids and i told them i said thats exactly why it should be illegal. Whens the last time you ever heard of somebody making fats of gin. Much rather have seagrams or Philip Morris making the math math than to have it made out of the house next door to me. It would be much safer done that way. Its not push oneonone directly to kids and thats what id like to see for the other drugs and also in again im not sure of the exact nature of the death that many people who use drugs they dont know what they are getting. The only way you are going to die from marijuana is if they falls on your head. We have drug dealers out there who are lacing it with toxic substances and we have people who are using heroin who of marijuana were legal maybe they would have never used it. Now they are several which is killing the men lasted like to point out economists Milton Freeman said this, cocaine word illegal we would never have croaked crackcocaine because economically it would make sense. It just doesnt make sense to come up with such a strong substance areen just like alcohl prohibition beer and wine went down and liquor sales went up. Now what they are doing is they are making drugs much more concentrated, much more toxic because thats how they do it and the black market. If it wasnt for the black market drugs would be safer and othey could get help so they wouldnt have to worry about being thrown in jail and we wouldnt have drug pushers trying to get people hooked. Host lets talk to janelle whos calling from Fort Washington maryland on the democratic line. Janelle good morning. Caller good morning. Hello . Host you are on the air, go ahead. Caller okay. I am voting for the Democratic Party and joe biden because i believe that he is the man for the right reasons and he is a candidate for all seasons. And you know donald trump should be prosecuted again. He is a moral and he should be prosecuted on going around violating an Airline Stewardess who was just doing her job and going around the country and giving people golden showers. This man is terrible and he didnt have correct etiquette when he met queen elizabeth. Host go ahead and respond there jo. Guest i would ask your viewer what is it that you like most about joe biden the fact that he crafted a crime bill in the 90s which was extremely racist and put people away for life for things that, for crimes which there were no victims or the fact that he got us into the iraqi war and he was one of the major instigators and hes a war hock it is going to have our young kids around the world killed which doesnt help us at all. Or the fact that he knows better about how to run each of our lives. I really was upset when i saw the town hall. Four police what i want is i want social workers and psychologists and oh by the way we need more of this kind of training or that kind of training. That may or may not be right but heres the thing. What is the president doing with our local community . Crime is a local issue whether its assault and robbery burglary or whatever and i would say its up to each of our towns. My town has different needs than where im going today to to Columbus Ohio which has different needs in Salt Lake City and should my Police Department via would have its own rules . Should my mayor city council and voters residence should we have our own choice or the fact that you really like the department of education which is basically predatory loans and bankrupting kids. Ngim not sure what laws joe bin as pastor what he is advocated that has done any good are the fact that he was for obamacare. Is that why you think a vote for joe biden is a good idea because d watt Health Care Cost to go up even more because they didnt go up enough when hebe was Vice President and let me make one more comment. I grew up in the 60s and i think about the Democratic Party that i grew up with. It was antiwar. It was pro individual and it was for free speech and now the Democratic Party is nothing like that. They stepped on Tulsi Gabbard the only antiwar voice out there and since joe biden is on the coattails of barack obama and like to point out that both barack obama and Hillary Clinton thought that marriage should be illegal as close as 2012. Is that really the party that people want to belong to . What i tell democrats hey of joe biden was your first choice and you think hes great in the love is crime bill w was put away people of color at a higher rate than whites go ahead and vote for joe biden but if you feel like the Democratic Party leadership show ofof joe biden down your throat how about voting for me in sending a message to the Democratic Party you knoww m what, we dont liku shoving candidates down our throats. If you let us pick our own candidates we will vote for the democrats but where are going to be led by party machine. Host that was one of the questions i wanted to talk to about jo. What is causing voters who supported President Trump and 2016di or Democratic CandidatesHillary Clinton 2016 to support the Libertarian Party and the cycle . Can you tell us what rings voters over to your side now . With some voters its his record and what ive been telling people is i can completely and her to stand why you voted for trump and 2016. He came in as an outsider. Im going to fix the system. Im am businessman and i know w to bounce the budget and im going to cut the deficit and oh by the way that sounds like a great message and if somebody who just had 50 years of political favors to pay back and somebody he who didnt have to pay back and somebody who put him in the statehouse forward ever and yet he increased the deficit at faster rates than obama and i the way that was before the coronavirus. We have got thero biggest that ever and he didnt bring the troopshe d home. What i keep telling trump voters as you know what, if you like the facts if the reason you voted for trump was you had bigger government under a bomb and if the reason you voted for trump as you dont think obama increase the deficit fast enough thenen go ahead and vote for trp if you want to send a message to trump which is hey we voted for you because youre an outsider since you are not being the outsider we are going to vote for the real outsider. Your vote is going to matter so how about sending a message to trump so if he wins again he gets the message that oh i guess my voters want me to be then i said i was going to be. Host lets go to jeff calling from virginia on the libertarian line. Jeff, good morning. Caller good morning and i would like to thank ms. Jorgensen for being our candidate for president. The libertarian ideas personal responsibility. The government isnt our nanny and i would like to bring this to light. Im feeling like im the only libertarian on cspan and i belonged to several of your companion sites i would say that been accused of everything and voting libertarian is not a wasted vote. Ms. Jorgensens word we have several sites and ive made donations to the party and even last night we launched the libertarian platform to raise money for the spca because it isnt up to the government to take care of us. Guillermo caragena personal responsibility and i would like to have her emphasize that point in her message all the time. Guest thank you for that. I didnt hear much of a question but let me tell you say you feel like the lone libertarian in this world right here. I can tell you going around the country there are a lot of people joining our movement so thank you very much for your support and thank you for your appreciation for my candidacy. Ive got to tell you i love almost every minute of it and it has just been great. Its been so rewarding talking to voters saying its broken we need something new. Host we have a question from one of our social media followers and a followup question. What are the views on mandating masks, the shutdown . My followup would be what would yous do as president about the coronavirus pandemic sweeping through the country . Guest there are two parts. Let me answer the last question first for libertarians come libertarian way is instead of a onesizefitsall that we each get to vote with our dollars and thisfe is a great question to explain the difference between our party and the other two parties. The way the