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Finish the fight the history of the Suffrage Movement. A look at the Civil Rights Movement in new york followed by discussion with authors and historians about writing lesser known stories. Lesserknown stories. It all begins now on book tv on cspan two. I want to thank you all so much for joining us today for a conversation about the New York Times bestselling books. It is time to celebrate the names and stories with the historical women whose stori have really yet to be told. And what a fantastic panel weve had today. The incredible palace and what they have to say. Without further ado please let meelcome my friends and colleagues the have a very pivotal role. First we have ron chambers she is the primary author of finished the fight. Also editor of the narrative project. And an obituary editor of the times. And also aey contributor to this book. I will be asking questions of course i encouge the catalyst to be free to jump in and chatith one another at any time. After the conversation you can ask those questions now. I think we should all be seen there in the stream. Lets get things started. Thank you panist. We wl just start with talking about the process of finished the fight was like. How did you like to have that. An reflect the effort. Veronica, do you want to take that. When we realize it w the hundredth anniversary of women voting it was just something a lot of us have not thought about. I think suffrage is a born word. Its also a problematic word becausef you look at a lot of history books you see a lot of primarily white women. And yet the story of women and voti rights was so much bigger and so much more interesting and we really wanted to tell that story. We put together womenriters and satbout to tell as many stories as we could about those who have not been talked about as much as they should have. Of course we would overlook. I was just gonna say emailing bothf them because they are so busy in saint do you wt to do this with me, please. Amy we overlooked your business of finding these nas howid you decide that these were the ones he really wanted to bring to the forefront in highlight. As people may now or may not know. It is the one that writes the obituaries f remarkable women. It fit right in with the work i have already bn doing. I was thrilled when veronica reached out. We were just open to explorion. Picked a cple of names and spent hours and hours in the public library. I find that a lot was overlooked also. Someone who died up to a century ago. That was really tellingbout how much these women and the stors have been left out on the narrative of the suffrage. It was so important to be able to tell these tales. What was thatxperience like for you. Who were the women that you really wanted to bring to the forefrt and why. She was the first bla woman to orate a newspaper in the country. It just made sense. To then turn aund and help the groups that she was involvedith and print off that newspaper as much as she did and editorialize and do as much as she did f women of color by using how they didnt actually question her. And being hurt i certain places. She was just fascinating. Its not something and learned in school. It was intesting that she is the sort of bridge. For the betterment overall. Her mother was an english woman. She washite. But she defitely identified with the work. She was aware that she was a rich upperclass kin of woman at this point. She definitely used that to make a bridgeetween herself and her world. And a woman that was trying to better herself at this time. Amy, it would be great if you took a moment to talk about to talkbout the chapters that you worked on. I would lov to hear that. We all know what a stellar journalist she was. She started many of the techniques it was so effective. Anpowerful. I think they are less into the Suffrage Movement. As we all know. She ran a newspaper. She also was part of sever womens groups. She often was she hav to force her way in. There is a really good example that i highlight in the boo about how the biggest march in washington was taking place. And i believe it was 1913 she shows up. And there are thousands of women who got off of trading there. Sh goes to go with her delegation and she is tol by one of the wte leaders. You have to go to the back. They might be left less lily to support that overall. We are not can have the bold power behind this effort. She said fine. She le. And that you waited on the sidelines. She jumped in with them and marched alongside. I was really impressed by her bravery all throughout her life. Her story sto out to me the most. I al worked on another chapter. It wasnt quite so bad. She was approached tennessee athe time was a really key state in getting it w the last estate that state that could have given that book. There is a deep heate moment where theyre all saying they are watching it happen. She had been giving speeches. And th had agreed. That we should work sidebyside. She convinced them. They were otherwi been sent to judy. Luckily it passed. The whole room erupted into cheers. She got her school for her young black women. They go on with succs. I think its onef the interesting things. There is never Just One Movement happening at a time. The antilynching movement is at the sam time. As native americans. So what you see among these women of color as their taking on a lot of things that were. The suffrage can pass. Part of what makes that successful is thebility to hold them there. All of these issues aund ineligibility. And the disenfranchisent. Sohile were talking about women suffrage. Because we are 100 years in here. With a wider lensou can really see a lot of parallels so why is it important that we discuss these women and their motivations and impts now and what lessons can we stand learn and facing our current challenges. 1920 because the biggest influx of voters in american histor because most women are giv the right to vote at that time. Didnt have theight to vote until later. And native women dont get the right to vote until later. U have the huge influx almost half of the popation joins the ranks of voters. The memories are very short as citizens. What took 100 years to achieve. Its something we always had. D i think in a year like this sop to remember that voting unlocks everything. I think thatsart of our work in suffrage. This rate is pow. They wanted to disconnect you fr your power. Veronica pretty much nailed it. These women were not just involved in the Suffrage Movement. They also worked with different womens clubs. The for the betterment of man of color. Veroni nailed it. The only reason someone would try to disenfranchise you or keep you from voting is to ep you from exercising your power as a citizen. They actually wrote a lot of letters in her newspaper tt she edited about about the importance of womeneing able to vote. Also black women. It came down to making sure that everyone was been hard and they could vote and exercise their voices. I would like to ask you all. What would you say is at stake for women of voters today. I think this is interesti beuse we had two coauthors this call. Thereas a lot about suffrage in history. Women had never agreed on everything. It doesnt mean that our vote is not iortant. You can follow all of the coverage. One of the pieces that jenny did. And the women who were anti vote. If you look at therc of history whats so interesting is that its not that these women didnt have opinions about child labor laws and domestic violencend all these kind of issues. Politics was a blood sport. The conservative woman of that time in the ely 20th century really felt that i can better exercise your power. They did not theres always a question that we believe. When we think we can put the energy and power. The thing that you see in the Suffrage Movement is that put it somewhere. No one is sayin you have to vote for this person or that person if you are an amecan who is lucky enough to have th right to vote is something that generation of women fought for. They lived to vote. Ey started the right to vote. They fght for us. Its less important. That all kinds of women contributed to this fight. They need all kind of women to get to the polls. Show up and show out. Amy, doou have any thoughts on that. Is such an independent individual right. It really speaks to the kind of grouping and stereotyping that was forced upon us. They dontave the brains or the instincts. If it is a blood sport. What goes on in politics everybody has different beliefs. I agree wit veronica we should all exercise. Can i just jumpn and say something. I thought this was interesting that we found. The civil war era surgeon. She met her husband in medical scol. They end up closing that. From the time that she was on the battlefield until when she was in surgery for hours she did not want to wear the petticoats and the skirts and all that. The law said she shoul be arrested. I am not wearing mens clothes. Im wearing my clothes. It is literly the right to wear pants. All of the things were law. My great grandmother was alive at that time. I think we have to remember its not just is not jt a big issues that divide us but really the letter of the law affects every part of our lives. And thats why t women fought so hard because they ew that. Women couldnt run for office. And won couldnt vote. Very few women have leadership positions inur country and government its all about possibility and opportuni and one thing they told us. You can pick it. Or ida b wells. Heroes dont make movements people do. What m made it past the possible. They saved 5 cents from their family budget. To get the newspapers and suffrage is just another example of that. I think with every passing year. I get older. We learned at such a young age. As the only time that i ever hear about it. The Civil Rights Movement. I was born in 1980 itsnly about a decade before. But it couldve bn 200 years ago. You getlder and realize how these are. Why is it important for them to understand that women Suffrage Movement. The book that ive already sent to my niece met as one fome. Id love to hear your thoughts on that. Seeike i know you have a nephew. He is not at all interested. So he is excited to read a book with his mom. But what i was gonna say its important f boys and girls to learn about these women because they need to understand that you can come for y walk of life. She was a birial woman she was not wealthy. But s have enough money to take care of herself. And to be able to pay them. Even though towards the e she has to try to get as many people to buy ads in the paper. She tried her bt. It was wen who gave their best women who did not take no for an answer. The educated one another and worked off of each other. Courageous women like ida b wells. Its talk to us about its like a huned years ago. It feels like a huned years ago. Escially when you see photos. Theyre very antique like. This is just something i have to you have to lrn to understand the history. It may very will inspire those kids. They are gonna make them fee that no matter what is standi in their way. They can also create change i the world. Especially a year like this year. E state of affairs of our couny so much social unrest. Am sure that there are parents explaining t their kids why there had bee protests in every state of the country. All of these issues are directly tie with the Suffrage Movement. The movements did not happen in a vacuum. You find it easier to expla to the child. And she went around and documented race. If it ieasier. I have not had to explain this to a child yet. This is what is going o th is how it is tied to the protest that you see on tv today. Its not so great. Theyot the right to vote and thats it. Its all tied together. The stories of t women who tried their best and did the best they could weee those women all the time leading marches into protest. They are the mother of the people that have been unfortunately killed by police and having to deal with any sort of police brutaty. They can turn around and decide to fight again it. Think thats why its so relevant. Everything isnterestingly connected. I learned this on a daily basis actually. Their heydays were decades ago. And they were fighting for something that they believed in or changed. It is a daily shock almost not too long ago. To the feminist movement. In the feminist movement. I read about all of the things that theyre talking about. Okay were still having the same conversation today. Its really crazy. To share with the younger readers to come up in your life at some point. And what they made from that. Some of them are actually quite young. She was hurt harassed all along the way. Sometimes they were as young as some of the readers we still dont have a fema president if you want to touch on that. When they write their own obituary. They think. What is the measure of your life. A scene of something. It is so clear that they have the results of the day. We have to fight hard to have our voices heard. And fight internal battles some time to convince ourselves that our voices are worth hearing. And once they found the strength. All the times they encourage people to write about themselves. Believe me there could be someone a century for now. They were inspired by something they read. Where are they born. Who are the parents. In a letter to yourself. To a relative. For the oral history or something. Just put it out there. You can always add to it later. On that note i know that reporting on historical figures it can be very challenging. I love to hear about the research for this project. To put forth the most accurate picture. It was really a huge effort. We really started we sent out an email certain survey. What do we know about suffrage. What do you wish people knew. Why does it matter now, it was was great to start with people. One of the great things about being a journalist is we have to ask people questions. We actually have a round table with eight historians. And we started at 9 00 in the morning and we will still there at 5 00. We taped everything. We kind of went back to that. There is a reading list in files we have weve a great person on our team. Who has a phd with these amazing files. It was great for me to go back to books that i have read in college. As well as to read to things i have read it before. With martha jones. Can i go off topic and say one other thing . Amy mentioned it we havent have a female president and one of the things that i really was hoping to do in the book but i couldnt because its a little tricky. I wanted to look at when they got to vote in its really not that easy to make a simple chart. Africanamerican men were granted the vote in 1870. Barack obama was elected in 2008. That is 148 years after black men get the boat. If you think about the fact that women had been voting 100 years. Before a woman gets into the office. I think history gives you a perspective. It makes you see that short and long. I think that is something important to think about. So important why we get the boat. When suffragist were getting arrested and being thrown into prison. We are not breaking the law to break the law. We need to be lawmakers. I think theyre still a trying to achieve that in the country. I will be taking some audience questions. Feel more than free to drop your questions in. I will take a look at those shortly. What did you feel like the process was like for you. I was lucky because the womens era and newspaper. I can go through i can see what they wrote for the paper. They really had other voice. I could hear her almost when she was writing about. Youre on mute sounder. When she wrote about asking women around the country to come and help out with her newspaper for not allowing a black woman to be a part of it she was also part of a lot of white only women clubs and she wrote about that. She made a call to arms for all women in the country. I got lucky. She began publishing it in 1893. I think they could just kind of get a touch of her book. From that. But not a lot has been written about josephine in the other books. That was daunting. Maybe half a chapter about josephine. A picture of her life. It wasnt that difficult they took it upon their cell. In her voice. She wasnt always right. She wasnt always kind and compassionate. She did ask women to do things that they can do because they didnt have the kind of money that she have. A cake is perfectly priced at a dollar 50. Almost no one have a dollar 50. She did that a lot. The research was a lot. She died so long ago. She documented everything that she did. She wrote letters to so many women. She even asked for donations. And that was extremely helpful. One of my favorite Research Tools was fighting newspapers the day that someone lived. Especially a lot of black newspapers. They wear an immigrant from china. In largely in chinatown. Its something that they did not do. Blend in and work hard. Thats about it. I think women here and in china should have the right to vote. At the age of 16 she went at the time one of the biggest places in the country in new york city. There were a lot of newspaper articles about this. The little chinese girl and she decided they were going to be in that movement. We couldnt get simple things there. We learned a lot about her personality for sure. We are telling these stories of the different women. What are the most remarkable is that even though we are discussing different perspectives. It is all tied together and it doesnt paint the Bigger Picture when it was a symbol. On the backend i think it was quite a bit of work. How does the contributor come together to work on this. To help paint the Bigger Picture. We all had different chapters to work on. We should have just gotten together. When Carrie Chapman in the winning plan. The 36 states to ratify that 19h amendment. The 19th amendment. When she retired. They built in the backyard what they called the suffrage for and on every tree she put a plaque in the name of a woman who have helped and moved the process forward. And we put the name of all of the historians who books we have loved the most. It was illustrated by 11 young women illustrators and they were all women of color. As well as the diversity of the authors. We were all really headed to the same place. To tell the story of women and voting and to have a broad way as possible. The illustrations are stunning. When we talk about how we learn about these things when we are young. They might get a tiny thumbnail picture. To have the large illustrations is so beautiful. Okay. Im going to ask a couple more questions and then i will take a look at the chat here. Earlier i meant to talk about how varied the movement was in a lot of the things that we havent learned or ever heard about. I was very lucky to contribute to the New York Times effort. To share stories and to have a broader more accurate picture. And one component of that is. The idea of quickness in the Suffrage Movement<\/a>. A look at the Civil Rights Movement<\/a> in new york followed by discussion with authors and historians about writing lesser known stories. Lesserknown stories. It all begins now on book tv on cspan two. I want to thank you all so much for joining us today for a conversation about the New York Times<\/a> bestselling books. It is time to celebrate the names and stories with the historical women whose stori have really yet to be told. And what a fantastic panel weve had today. The incredible palace and what they have to say. Without further ado please let meelcome my friends and colleagues the have a very pivotal role. First we have ron chambers she is the primary author of finished the fight. Also editor of the narrative project. And an obituary editor of the times. And also aey contributor to this book. I will be asking questions of course i encouge the catalyst to be free to jump in and chatith one another at any time. After the conversation you can ask those questions now. I think we should all be seen there in the stream. Lets get things started. Thank you panist. We wl just start with talking about the process of finished the fight was like. How did you like to have that. An reflect the effort. Veronica, do you want to take that. When we realize it w the hundredth anniversary of women voting it was just something a lot of us have not thought about. I think suffrage is a born word. Its also a problematic word becausef you look at a lot of history books you see a lot of primarily white women. And yet the story of women and voti rights was so much bigger and so much more interesting and we really wanted to tell that story. We put together womenriters and satbout to tell as many stories as we could about those who have not been talked about as much as they should have. Of course we would overlook. I was just gonna say emailing bothf them because they are so busy in saint do you wt to do this with me, please. Amy we overlooked your business of finding these nas howid you decide that these were the ones he really wanted to bring to the forefront in highlight. As people may now or may not know. It is the one that writes the obituaries f remarkable women. It fit right in with the work i have already bn doing. I was thrilled when veronica reached out. We were just open to explorion. Picked a cple of names and spent hours and hours in the public library. I find that a lot was overlooked also. Someone who died up to a century ago. That was really tellingbout how much these women and the stors have been left out on the narrative of the suffrage. It was so important to be able to tell these tales. What was thatxperience like for you. Who were the women that you really wanted to bring to the forefrt and why. She was the first bla woman to orate a newspaper in the country. It just made sense. To then turn aund and help the groups that she was involvedith and print off that newspaper as much as she did and editorialize and do as much as she did f women of color by using how they didnt actually question her. And being hurt i certain places. She was just fascinating. Its not something and learned in school. It was intesting that she is the sort of bridge. For the betterment overall. Her mother was an english woman. She washite. But she defitely identified with the work. She was aware that she was a rich upperclass kin of woman at this point. She definitely used that to make a bridgeetween herself and her world. And a woman that was trying to better herself at this time. Amy, it would be great if you took a moment to talk about to talkbout the chapters that you worked on. I would lov to hear that. We all know what a stellar journalist she was. She started many of the techniques it was so effective. Anpowerful. I think they are less into the Suffrage Movement<\/a>. As we all know. She ran a newspaper. She also was part of sever womens groups. She often was she hav to force her way in. There is a really good example that i highlight in the boo about how the biggest march in washington was taking place. And i believe it was 1913 she shows up. And there are thousands of women who got off of trading there. Sh goes to go with her delegation and she is tol by one of the wte leaders. You have to go to the back. They might be left less lily to support that overall. We are not can have the bold power behind this effort. She said fine. She le. And that you waited on the sidelines. She jumped in with them and marched alongside. I was really impressed by her bravery all throughout her life. Her story sto out to me the most. I al worked on another chapter. It wasnt quite so bad. She was approached tennessee athe time was a really key state in getting it w the last estate that state that could have given that book. There is a deep heate moment where theyre all saying they are watching it happen. She had been giving speeches. And th had agreed. That we should work sidebyside. She convinced them. They were otherwi been sent to judy. Luckily it passed. The whole room erupted into cheers. She got her school for her young black women. They go on with succs. I think its onef the interesting things. There is never Just One Movement<\/a> happening at a time. The antilynching movement is at the sam time. As native americans. So what you see among these women of color as their taking on a lot of things that were. The suffrage can pass. Part of what makes that successful is thebility to hold them there. All of these issues aund ineligibility. And the disenfranchisent. Sohile were talking about women suffrage. Because we are 100 years in here. With a wider lensou can really see a lot of parallels so why is it important that we discuss these women and their motivations and impts now and what lessons can we stand learn and facing our current challenges. 1920 because the biggest influx of voters in american histor because most women are giv the right to vote at that time. Didnt have theight to vote until later. And native women dont get the right to vote until later. U have the huge influx almost half of the popation joins the ranks of voters. The memories are very short as citizens. What took 100 years to achieve. Its something we always had. D i think in a year like this sop to remember that voting unlocks everything. I think thatsart of our work in suffrage. This rate is pow. They wanted to disconnect you fr your power. Veronica pretty much nailed it. These women were not just involved in the Suffrage Movement<\/a>. They also worked with different womens clubs. The for the betterment of man of color. Veroni nailed it. The only reason someone would try to disenfranchise you or keep you from voting is to ep you from exercising your power as a citizen. They actually wrote a lot of letters in her newspaper tt she edited about about the importance of womeneing able to vote. Also black women. It came down to making sure that everyone was been hard and they could vote and exercise their voices. I would like to ask you all. What would you say is at stake for women of voters today. I think this is interesti beuse we had two coauthors this call. Thereas a lot about suffrage in history. Women had never agreed on everything. It doesnt mean that our vote is not iortant. You can follow all of the coverage. One of the pieces that jenny did. And the women who were anti vote. If you look at therc of history whats so interesting is that its not that these women didnt have opinions about child labor laws and domestic violencend all these kind of issues. Politics was a blood sport. The conservative woman of that time in the ely 20th century really felt that i can better exercise your power. They did not theres always a question that we believe. When we think we can put the energy and power. The thing that you see in the Suffrage Movement<\/a> is that put it somewhere. No one is sayin you have to vote for this person or that person if you are an amecan who is lucky enough to have th right to vote is something that generation of women fought for. They lived to vote. Ey started the right to vote. They fght for us. Its less important. That all kinds of women contributed to this fight. They need all kind of women to get to the polls. Show up and show out. Amy, doou have any thoughts on that. Is such an independent individual right. It really speaks to the kind of grouping and stereotyping that was forced upon us. They dontave the brains or the instincts. If it is a blood sport. What goes on in politics everybody has different beliefs. I agree wit veronica we should all exercise. Can i just jumpn and say something. I thought this was interesting that we found. The civil war era surgeon. She met her husband in medical scol. They end up closing that. From the time that she was on the battlefield until when she was in surgery for hours she did not want to wear the petticoats and the skirts and all that. The law said she shoul be arrested. I am not wearing mens clothes. Im wearing my clothes. It is literly the right to wear pants. All of the things were law. My great grandmother was alive at that time. I think we have to remember its not just is not jt a big issues that divide us but really the letter of the law affects every part of our lives. And thats why t women fought so hard because they ew that. Women couldnt run for office. And won couldnt vote. Very few women have leadership positions inur country and government its all about possibility and opportuni and one thing they told us. You can pick it. Or ida b wells. Heroes dont make movements people do. What m made it past the possible. They saved 5 cents from their family budget. To get the newspapers and suffrage is just another example of that. I think with every passing year. I get older. We learned at such a young age. As the only time that i ever hear about it. The Civil Rights Movement<\/a>. I was born in 1980 itsnly about a decade before. But it couldve bn 200 years ago. You getlder and realize how these are. Why is it important for them to understand that women Suffrage Movement<\/a>. The book that ive already sent to my niece met as one fome. Id love to hear your thoughts on that. Seeike i know you have a nephew. He is not at all interested. So he is excited to read a book with his mom. But what i was gonna say its important f boys and girls to learn about these women because they need to understand that you can come for y walk of life. She was a birial woman she was not wealthy. But s have enough money to take care of herself. And to be able to pay them. Even though towards the e she has to try to get as many people to buy ads in the paper. She tried her bt. It was wen who gave their best women who did not take no for an answer. The educated one another and worked off of each other. Courageous women like ida b wells. Its talk to us about its like a huned years ago. It feels like a huned years ago. Escially when you see photos. Theyre very antique like. This is just something i have to you have to lrn to understand the history. It may very will inspire those kids. They are gonna make them fee that no matter what is standi in their way. They can also create change i the world. Especially a year like this year. E state of affairs of our couny so much social unrest. Am sure that there are parents explaining t their kids why there had bee protests in every state of the country. All of these issues are directly tie with the Suffrage Movement<\/a>. The movements did not happen in a vacuum. You find it easier to expla to the child. And she went around and documented race. If it ieasier. I have not had to explain this to a child yet. This is what is going o th is how it is tied to the protest that you see on tv today. Its not so great. Theyot the right to vote and thats it. Its all tied together. The stories of t women who tried their best and did the best they could weee those women all the time leading marches into protest. They are the mother of the people that have been unfortunately killed by police and having to deal with any sort of police brutaty. They can turn around and decide to fight again it. Think thats why its so relevant. Everything isnterestingly connected. I learned this on a daily basis actually. Their heydays were decades ago. And they were fighting for something that they believed in or changed. It is a daily shock almost not too long ago. To the feminist movement. In the feminist movement. I read about all of the things that theyre talking about. Okay were still having the same conversation today. Its really crazy. To share with the younger readers to come up in your life at some point. And what they made from that. Some of them are actually quite young. She was hurt harassed all along the way. Sometimes they were as young as some of the readers we still dont have a fema president if you want to touch on that. When they write their own obituary. They think. What is the measure of your life. A scene of something. It is so clear that they have the results of the day. We have to fight hard to have our voices heard. And fight internal battles some time to convince ourselves that our voices are worth hearing. And once they found the strength. All the times they encourage people to write about themselves. Believe me there could be someone a century for now. They were inspired by something they read. Where are they born. Who are the parents. In a letter to yourself. To a relative. For the oral history or something. Just put it out there. You can always add to it later. On that note i know that reporting on historical figures it can be very challenging. I love to hear about the research for this project. To put forth the most accurate picture. It was really a huge effort. We really started we sent out an email certain survey. What do we know about suffrage. What do you wish people knew. Why does it matter now, it was was great to start with people. One of the great things about being a journalist is we have to ask people questions. We actually have a round table with eight historians. And we started at 9 00 in the morning and we will still there at 5 00. We taped everything. We kind of went back to that. There is a reading list in files we have weve a great person on our team. Who has a phd with these amazing files. It was great for me to go back to books that i have read in college. As well as to read to things i have read it before. With martha jones. Can i go off topic and say one other thing . Amy mentioned it we havent have a female president and one of the things that i really was hoping to do in the book but i couldnt because its a little tricky. I wanted to look at when they got to vote in its really not that easy to make a simple chart. Africanamerican men were granted the vote in 1870. Barack obama was elected in 2008. That is 148 years after black men get the boat. If you think about the fact that women had been voting 100 years. Before a woman gets into the office. I think history gives you a perspective. It makes you see that short and long. I think that is something important to think about. So important why we get the boat. When suffragist were getting arrested and being thrown into prison. We are not breaking the law to break the law. We need to be lawmakers. I think theyre still a trying to achieve that in the country. I will be taking some audience questions. Feel more than free to drop your questions in. I will take a look at those shortly. What did you feel like the process was like for you. I was lucky because the womens era and newspaper. I can go through i can see what they wrote for the paper. They really had other voice. I could hear her almost when she was writing about. Youre on mute sounder. When she wrote about asking women around the country to come and help out with her newspaper for not allowing a black woman to be a part of it she was also part of a lot of white only women clubs and she wrote about that. She made a call to arms for all women in the country. I got lucky. She began publishing it in 1893. I think they could just kind of get a touch of her book. From that. But not a lot has been written about josephine in the other books. That was daunting. Maybe half a chapter about josephine. A picture of her life. It wasnt that difficult they took it upon their cell. In her voice. She wasnt always right. She wasnt always kind and compassionate. She did ask women to do things that they can do because they didnt have the kind of money that she have. A cake is perfectly priced at a dollar 50. Almost no one have a dollar 50. She did that a lot. The research was a lot. She died so long ago. She documented everything that she did. She wrote letters to so many women. She even asked for donations. And that was extremely helpful. One of my favorite Research Tools<\/a> was fighting newspapers the day that someone lived. Especially a lot of black newspapers. They wear an immigrant from china. In largely in chinatown. Its something that they did not do. Blend in and work hard. Thats about it. I think women here and in china should have the right to vote. At the age of 16 she went at the time one of the biggest places in the country in new york city. There were a lot of newspaper articles about this. The little chinese girl and she decided they were going to be in that movement. We couldnt get simple things there. We learned a lot about her personality for sure. We are telling these stories of the different women. What are the most remarkable is that even though we are discussing different perspectives. It is all tied together and it doesnt paint the Bigger Picture<\/a> when it was a symbol. On the backend i think it was quite a bit of work. How does the contributor come together to work on this. To help paint the Bigger Picture<\/a>. We all had different chapters to work on. We should have just gotten together. When Carrie Chapman<\/a> in the winning plan. The 36 states to ratify that 19h amendment. The 19th amendment. When she retired. They built in the backyard what they called the suffrage for and on every tree she put a plaque in the name of a woman who have helped and moved the process forward. And we put the name of all of the historians who books we have loved the most. It was illustrated by 11 young women illustrators and they were all women of color. As well as the diversity of the authors. We were all really headed to the same place. To tell the story of women and voting and to have a broad way as possible. The illustrations are stunning. When we talk about how we learn about these things when we are young. They might get a tiny thumbnail picture. To have the large illustrations is so beautiful. Okay. Im going to ask a couple more questions and then i will take a look at the chat here. Earlier i meant to talk about how varied the movement was in a lot of the things that we havent learned or ever heard about. I was very lucky to contribute to the New York Times<\/a> effort. To share stories and to have a broader more accurate picture. And one component of that is. The idea of quickness in the Suffrage Movement<\/a>. We are talking about some of the biggest names in the Movement Including<\/a> Susan B Anthony<\/a> thank you for asking. Anna howard shop. These are some of the bigger names in the movement and all of them with their romantic relationships. Including lucy lucy anthony. The way the women live is so important to understanding what we are talking about here. It isnt like these women lived in this little box of being straight, white women married to men and then doing this as a side hobby. They were living radically. Even the ones that were living outside the bounds. I think it is the accurate portrayal of what was happening. To live in this way. And especially fear in a relationship with women nowadays i am married to a woman. Even 2020 had to take all of these considerations into account. The amount of affection you show and where. And for me to realize that these women who were so brave and bold and fighting for something so concrete were also living is so radically is not only empowering and brings up so many feelings in me. It shows me how much i didnt understand and i think that is what all of this is about on some degree. And now with our chance to fix that. It was wonderful. And same with the research. That is the letters that they wrote to each other i dont know if anybody goes through my emails in a hundred years that they will be beautiful and inspiring. To hear their voice and see how they communicated and shared their truth with each other. I love what you said about that. Just to go back to again to the idea that suffrage is a born word. The relevance to 2020 and what they were asking for a hundred years is what does it mean to be a woman and live free. What does it mean to be indigenous and live free. These are so questions that we are left with today. There is a lot of hope in going into this work because you realize lynching was as bad if not worse than what we were dealing with now. If our mothers could buckle up and keep fighting then we have to do the same. I know that we are short on time. I dont know if you want to ask a question. I am only seen a couple thoughts. I do have a couple questions here. One of the questions is from danielle how old do you think most young people who may be it disconnected from this history are. Is it people in their 30s or younger. When you think about the disconnection to the Suffrage Movement<\/a>. As us across the board. Does it affect young people more. We would love to hear your thoughts. I think that one of the hardest things i dont think it is a generational thing. I think it was how history was taught. We did not live earn a a full suffrage history because generations did not want to reckon with the messiness of the history. That women like this were both heroes and they were exclusionary. But for the moment that we are in and some academics had been working on this for years. It really coincides with the questions. To be able to hold complexity. When you can have previous generations that are really comfortable with. Where they did not learn as much about women as they could have. Very will put. It has been 100 years women got the right to vote but women of color in minorities still dont go on vote. What is the take on that . My question would be they dont go out and vote where things keep them from voting. It is a choice they are making. That they dont want to go out and vote. I cant skip work to see it in line for three hours. I dont know what won this one this person is referring to. Is a shame that people dont exercise their right. It is the one way they can use their power invoice to shape their communities and shape the world in a country that we live in. Its not only because of the struggles that are for mothers went through but also the men that go before them. So many people and some new generations have fought for. They had been in horrible conditions to be able to be able to vote. As far as people that are being disenfranchised in whatever way. And historically. We have also seen people like john lewis who would not take the enfranchisement by any means. He did anything he could to secure the vote for black people. There was a place to give them the right to vote. To allow us to express that without retaliation. Without having someone there. Were arbitrary means of who gets to vote. Or things like that. I think that speaks volumes to what is important to people of this country they are not only fighting for their right but their right to exercise that right. Its unfortunate when people dont go. There are certain scenarios that keep them from being able to go vote. I stand in the solids solid truth. Summary people have died trying to get us that right. Millions of people come to this country just to be able able to have that right. To say i want to choose the attorney general from where i live. Thank you so much. That was such a treat. It went by really fast. 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