The potential to opt out and with mr. Blazer i just felt we had other things to do that could help build our sport as well and there was some concern that if i brought it to mr. Blazers attention i may feel a level of discomfort in other ways. Did you see peers feel discomfort in other ways in order to confront mr. Blazer . It would be hard to categorize it that way. When we reached out to talk to other National Associations, other federations once again we were one of 41 or 35 voting members and there wasnt anybody else that had the same level i did as an organization. Once again were in concacaf by virtue of being a member of fifa. We felt we had to find a way to participate and work our way through. Fortunately by a close vote, 18 to 17 he was elected to the seat in april of 2013 and we think that was a step in the right direction and a step ward reform. And that is the model that we felt was in the best interest of moving our sport forward in a very difficult and tricky environment sometimes. One final question and ill wrap up here. Back on womens soccer here on a happier note the most watched soccer match in u. S. History, as many viewers as game 7 of the 2014 world series. I was looking at the financial numbers here with the United StatesSoccer Federation and just looking at the investments in the Mens National team versus the woMens National team, i say this as a father of two sons and two daughters so you probably see where im headed with this, the spending on the Mens National team was up 50 fiscal 14 over 13 but the spending for womens soccer went down i think 13 of fiscal 13 versus 14. Just in broad strokes, any reason why the mens soccer would have been up 50 and the womens down 13 . Well, let me first say, thank you for your comments about our woMens National team. Were quite proud of our track record with womens soccer. We are recognized as a world leader. I give you a few small facts. Womens Soccer Campaign is the reason that womens soccer was admitted into the olympics in 1996 and continues to this day. We are the top pay team in the world by far on the womens side. In 2003 when we hosted the womens world cup the winnings there were no winnings for any team. The winning was 2 million. We continued to push fifa in the right direction. Related to your direct question if that was 2014 i dont have the exact numbers in front of me but it could be and ill be more than happy to follow up and provide in writing it could have because of the 2014 mens world cup as a peak year and would create more activity so i dont know no, it was what i was sensing looking at it but it might be worth a follow up. Getting a sense of investments because hopefully well continue to invest in our womens Soccer Program as you already have but the mens program was growing significantly and the womens is coming down some what and were so proud of what the women did we want to make sure that we invest appropriately. As a father of three daughters were quite proud of u. S. Soccer that unfortunately with two failed professional womens leagues three years ago we took it upon ourselves as a federation and we actually run the womens league. Rather than fund 25 to 30 women and cut the team down to 23, were providing a First Division womens Soccer League for 180 in this country. With the success we had we will have additional ownership and investment as well. Let me interrupt. Were about out of time. But thank you for that reply. Thank you very much. Thank you all of you. I wanted to follow up on some of senator danes questions and of course were all very proud of the womens u. S. Womens team and are you aware that were putting together a resolution has been put in from the senate asking for equal compensation between men and women in fifa and the soccer . I am not aware of that. Well be ready for it and i just think given the u. S. s emerging role in fifa and what we have seen the last few years with the corruption. While i appreciate you say that changes are being made i dont think enough changes are being made and i have some additional dollars from what senator danes was talking about. The u. S. Womens team for the victory was compensated 2 million; is that right . Thats correct. And the mens team, the germans team in 2014 was compensated 35 million; is that right . I think it with was 32. 32 million. So its 2 million versus 32 million and the losing team in 2014 which was the u. S. Men got 8 million. I believe it was 9 million. Okay. So we have a situation where the losing team actually got more than four times the amount of money as the winning womens team. Correct. But let me point out the winnings just as a point of reference or background the winnings payments go to the federations. So the payment to our players are guided and governed by separate collective bargaining agreements between the men and women. So thats one point. As a matter of background its important. But just to go back to this and sometimes they say well womens sports dont get as much of attention but we have a situation here where there was record attendance and tv ratings. Fox broke tv records in the u. S. Making the World Cup Final the most watched soccer telecast ever in the u. S. Male or female. And yet you have this disparity 32 million versus 2 million and my argument would be that certainly the u. S. Should be taking the lead in pushing for more equality here. In tennis they have equality. Wimbledon last year decided to have equality in prizes and it seemed to me that wimbledon seems pretty old school and soccer is supposed to be like so upscale and, you know cool progressive sport and yet you have this disparity that i think is outrageous. We do agree and we will continue to push for greater payments on the womens side without question. Okay. I really appreciate that. Thank you. Could you comment on the why the womens world cup was played on artificial turf when the mens world cup was played on grass. Ill give you a little bit of background background, and as part of that bid from our point of view it included playing on artificial surfaces. Its not something that we liked. We appealed to fifa and to the canadian side for association, to no avail. When our players came to us and wanted to participate in legal activity we supported that. We posed the question to our womens team if this is what we are faced with do we want to move forward and play or do we not want to play . The women decided its not perfect. We dont like what they felt and we agreed was a lot of respect but we were moving forward and many would say were pretty happy we moved forward under some not the best of circumstances circumstances. And the salary range of women and men. So men the minimum salary is 50,000, is that true . 50,000 for a male player . In our collective bargaining agreement. And the women range from 6,000 to 30,000. Im not sure what the reference is for that . This is professional soccer. Yeah. I cant speak to Major League Soccer if thats what the Reference Point is. Its guided and governed by a collective bargaining agreement. I can tell you the woMens National team players that play in our league is well above 6,000 and to play for to play for their country as well as their clubs is well above 6,000. Id be more than happy to follow up and give you more detail on that. Just my view on this whole thing going back to just the corruption and everything thats happening my colleagues have done a good job. Im sure theres more going through all of that as a former prosecutor im glad these cases are being pursued but it seems in general and the reason i bring it up is the u. S. Had a shorter history on the International Soccer stage but has significant pull. Im using that pull for not just reforms and transparency in the International Governance structure just so we dont see this corruption and it gets taken care of. If they can do it with wimbledon they can do it with soccer. Can i make one point . We are the strongest advocate for womens soccer in a world and as a point there were 24 teams in this years world cup. In 2011 there were 16. We were strong advocates and took a leadership position to expand. On the mens side theres 32 teams so compete. So theres greater number of games and a different commercial impact but we continue to push fifa and concacaf to expand the opportunities for women and as a father with three daughters rest assured its top of mind with me every single day. You can imagine women how we feel when we hear that our women players that everyone was watching was so proud of got less than a fourth of what the losing team did last year for the men. Its just not right. Ill be more than happy to give you additional information. I really appreciate it. Thank you to all of you. Thank you. Let me ask, you heard the testimony of mr. Flynn who indicated that i would summarize this testimony. Hes involved in the domestic side of the issues that were involving the u. S. Soccer federation and i think his testimony would reflect that he and his colleagues, no one reported to him any concerns or knowledge of any corruption, bribery, racketeering, i couldnt i think his testimony would suggest that he was unaware of the activity that lead to the indictments. That suggests to me that and i dont know exactly what mr. Flynn does but hes the ceo. What is it that needs to change structurally that this behavior would be known by the u. S. Soccer federation . Whats missing . Thank you for that chairman. Fifa is like no other organization that ive had an opportunity to consult with on issues related to governance and compliance. I want to correct a statement that mr. Barry said earlier. Fifa is not an international organization. Its not an ngo. Its not a corporation. It doesnt follow any guidelines or standards. What exemplifies fifa is a small clique of powerful individuals thats selfdealing was kept very secret at the top level of the organization. Its no surprise to me that an individual Federation Like the u. S. Soccer federation didnt know or understand what was going on. This was pointed out by the Justice Department had systematic corruption and for years now, for over ten years in the midst of many scandals and going back before ten years when mr. Jennings was aggressively reporting on lack of of transparency and accountability it answered to one man and one man alone and this man commanded with a iron fist and grip. That was sepp blatter. When he wanted someone to know something he would let them know and otherwise they would be in the dark and it is discouraging to me that president blatter sits in that same seat today. Let there be no mistake. He has not resigned. He has said he will step aside when a new election is called. Well he has said twice in the past, in recent history that he would not run for office again and changed his mind. Im very concerned that hell do the same thing again that six months from now he will say the Reform Initiative is now complete. I have succeeded and the federations from africa, the federations from asia want me to continue so i have decided to stay as president. That would be the worst thing that could happen for fifa. Therefore in your opinion your testimony is that the best thing that could happen to clean up fifa is for the departure of mr. Foreman blatter . Not only mr. Blatter. There are dinosaurs in the executive committee that dont believe in reform. But let me say this. Were going to see next week at the executive Committee MeetingFifa Executive Committee adopt new reforms. Reforms that we recommended years ago to be adopted and that were put aside. Its not whats on paper. Its not going to be the Compliance Program or the change in governance structure. Its going to be the culture of the organization that has to change and you cant have a change in culture unless you have people in leadership that believe in ethics and values. Let me ask you this, then what is the motivation for that change to occur . What needs to happen through the u. S. Soccer federation, others around the globe, today what were doing here have any consequence on these issues . Because what i assume that the opponent to change the financial. Theres apparently significant amounts of money that surround fifa and those involved in this what you described culture so how is it that what steps need to be taken to overcome that culture today tomorrow, and into the future . The spontaneoussors and media outlet versus to take a stand. When an individual athlete be it tiger woods or ray rice does something wrong the first thing that happens is the sponsor walks away from that relationship. Fifa has been the subject of scandal after scandal after scandal and no sponsors have taken the lead in with drawing their support for fifa based on those scandals. So the sponsorships have got to be the Media Outlets have to stand up and say if you dont reform and if you dont do the right thing were going to walk away. The med rations like the u. S. Soccer federation have got to come together. Those with similar cultures, similar believes and transparency and accountability and i do believe that thats the belief of this u. S. Soccer federation have got to come together from the bottom up and force change at the top and finally governments, many governments provide subto sports organizations. They support their domestic and International Sports organizations. They have to intervene and let them know that the time is right for change. We provide them with taxexempt status im sorry with exception from antitrust laws which is worth a great deal of money to them. So governments have to influence sports organizations to undertake transparent and accountable governance. What needs to transpire . What needs to transpire today tomorrow that would give you hope that the corruption that you described would be resolved internally and within fifa and perhaps your answer based upon your testimony is fifa has no future. It has to be replaced. Is that different than what he is saying . Yeah, fifa has to be dissolved. They dont want reform. We use words like reform they think boring. Everything works fine. A few get arrested. He went on for years as members of his family got picked off but the operation went on and i would just like to come back to concacaf because im astonished about what i hear about theyre going to have a reform meeting. Well that would be the third one, wouldnt it . Because when mr. Blazer and mr. Warner were out thank goodness, they had reforms. They had reform meetings. They pledged transparency and they brought in two men. Jeffrey webb and someone from traffic, from the corrupt Sports Marketing company and a few years later the fbi go can you step this way please sir. Now theyre doing it again. And who is this . The man that put his girlfriend in to vote at the Fifa Congress in 1998 and i have the document if you want to see it. They are so corrupt but do you know, the United States federation has been cowardly because little Peter Jenkins you know not a powerful country had the guts to stand up and say jack warner is stealing tens of millions of dollars of fifa money that should be developing the sport in the caribbean. He had the guts to say it. Warner and blazer turned their poison upon him and he just survived. But he had the courage to do it. Where was america . Let me ask mr. Flynn, in your testimony, i just made notes so this wont be identical to what you said but your testimony was you could encounter potential political impact yet you indicated that you opposed the reelection of mr. Blatter. I didnt hear you. You indicated that the u. S. Soccer federation opposed or voted for someone other than mr. Blatter to chair. Be the president , correct. And your testimony had something along these lines and that could have caused potential political impact and our chances to host the world cup. That suggests to me that there is an awareness that the decision about where a world cup soccer match is going to be played is that you would admit is not necessarily based upon the merits. If youre worried about the vote or the chairman of fifa having a consequence on Site Selection that suggests to me that youre aware that something is not above the board or am i overstating that . I think it reflects a managing style. Mr. Blatter yields as others have said a lot of influence in the organization and taking our position to not only vote openly but to nominate prince ali and work very hard for his election. We know that that may come with some difficulties down the road in terms of seeking support for the 2026 world cup as part of mr. Blatters management style. Thank you. Thanks mr. Chairman. Mr. Jennings, would you agree based on your experience that american corporate sponsors like nike mcdonalds, visa, and cocacola have been in some sense enablers . Inadequate. They have had terrible attacks of blindness havent they . When the rest of the world has been categorizing, listing corruption at fifa and the concacaf and documented. We only support the world cup. We dont support fifa. Well isnt that tough and brave of them . Maybe i should amend my question to say they certainly would be enablers now if they continued to be sponsors without insisting on reforms, would you agree . Would they they should with draw unless their money the money that blatter likes so much should be withheld until something radical happens to clean up the sport in the interest of the grass roots. In fact theres precedent for example, in the way that nike dealt with tiger woods following some of the revelations and public disclosure. Thats a very limited case which got huge publicity because it dealt with the private life of a celebrity. It gets a lot of tabloid coverage. But whether its private life or in this instance public corruption, it should be addressed. Oh, yes. And they have the capacity. They have the wealth. They have the brains and experience in their head offices from beaver on the to atlanta to chicago and they havent done anything and they should be apologizing. They talked a lot about the organization of american football soccer not particularly relevant to the issues at hand about fifa. The