Second, they may be inhibiting their ability to explore world markets. And i dont care what country you are, even if the Global Economy is bigger than you are. Dont cut yourself off from access to it. The same message needs to get to the european who is are struggling with a Single Market which at the same time may be accidentally preventing themselves from participating in a Global Market and letting the Global Market participate in the european one. So my message has always been economic. It is in your interests, mr. President , to invest in the internet, to keep it as open as possible and to allow your creative population to make use of it. No country has a corner on creativity and invention. Its uniformly distributed throughout the population of the world. Its just that the people with these ideas dont always have the wherewithall and support in order to explore those ideas. I will give you as a concrete example of that, how many folks come from india to the Silicon Valley or seattle or here and do spectacularly well . Their ideas were the same, its just they didnt have the investment infrastructure, the willingness to take risk that we have in the United States. And so we know that there are smart people out there with the possibility to improve their own gdp if the rules could be made similar to what they are here in the United States. We are almost out of time. But before i ask the last question, id like to remind everyone about some upcoming speakers. Lieutenant general michelle johnson, the first woman to lead the air force academy. Great. Will address a luncheon on friday. The ceos of american, delta and United Airlines will appear together at a luncheon on may 15th. What an opportunity and garrison keeler, author and host of prairie home companion, will address the press club on may 22nd. I would now like to present our guest with the greatest gift of all, the National Press club mug which you can treasure for decades. [ applause ] mugshot that is a mug shot. And now the final question, maybe we have time for two depending on how long your answer is. How long my answers are. Yeah. This question almost sounds like it could have come in over the internet. Im not sure whether it did. This questioner says, you have fewer than 5,000 followers on twitter, and youre not verified, whats up with that . So i dont tweet all that much. Just every once in a while. You know, i have Better Things to do. You know, and besides i have more than enough visibility as it is. I dont need anymore. I got stopped by two autograph guys, right, as they walked in today. So i dont know verification what do you have to do to get verified . Send your blood type or something . Well have to ask twitter. I remember asking the guy that started twitter, he says is your title chief twit, he didnt think that was very funny. Next question. Why isnt there a nobel prize in computing oh, i havent answered that. And should there be one . Youd have to ask mr. Nobel, but hes long passed. The story, which may not be true, is that mr. Nobels wife ran away with a really good m h mathematici mathematician. And in consequence mr. Nobel told his committee under no circumstance will any branch of mathematics be recognized by the nobel prize. And unfortunately Computer Sciences tended to be associated with mathematics, understandably. So we in that field are not eligible for the nobel prize. We might be eligible for the peace prize, but thats a real stretch because thats a very political kind of thing. There is, however, a prize thats offered by the association for computing machinery, which was founded in 1947 in the u. S. It is now gone global. There is the chinese and indian and European Council in addition to the one which oversees the whole global operation. I am former president of acm, im still serving in that role until the middle of 2016. And the prize is called the touring award, named after ellen touring. Many of you by this time will know from the movies that have been made. That prize is 1 million. Its funded by google. And were proud to offer that through acm every year. And i did get that prize along with bob khan in 2004. So i feel more than adequately compensated. It wasnt a Million Dollars back then and they arent doing it retro actively. I asked, but that didnt work. So it is a coveted and very high recognition of contribution to the Computer Science community. I think thats more than enough. How about of a round of applause for our speaker . [ applause ] thank you very much. [ applause ] id also like to thank National Press club staff including its Journalism Institute and Broadcast Center for organizing todays event. And remember if you would like a copy of todays program or to learn more about the National Press club, go to our website. Thats press. Org. Thank you very much. We are adjourned. [ applause ] tonight on American History tv, programs on the cold war. Starting at 8 00 p. M. , real america, exercise delawar, a u. S. Army big picture film highlighting a 1964 United Statesiran joint forces operations when the nations were allies. At 8 30 Nuclear Arms Race and lecture about the competition between the u. S. And ussr to build advanced Nuclear Weaponry during the cold war. And just before 9 30, korea and the cold war. And a book titled, cold war crucible. All of this tonight on American History tv on cspan 3. Republican president ial candidate donald trump will be in New Hampshire tonight. And well cover live a town hall that hes holding at 7 10 p. M. Eastern time in hampton. Courts washington correspondent steve levine and Jeffrey Chamberlain with the joint center for Energy Storage research, talk about the development of next generation Lithium Ion Battery Technology at a forum hosted by the Atlantic Council. Well, welcome everybody and good afternoon. Welcome to the Atlantic Council. Were pleased to have you all here today. I want to apologize in advance. Weve had some internet difficulties today. So were going to be sort of passing microphones back and forth if its not up and running by the time steve and jeff start. But im sure it will all work out. But i do want to emphasize that this is a very important event today. Its the inaugural event in our new Technology Speaker series. And one of the things that our new Global Energy center that we are emphasizing is the Critical Role that technology will play in helping us to meet clean energy challenges. And also the geopolitical and International Ramifications of those new technologies. And so for this reason were thrilled to have and host steve levine and Jeff Chamberlain this afternoon. You know, we could all stand here and identify the key Technological Breakthroughs in the past, but our guests today have taken on the challenging task of looking to the future. And more specifically the future of next generation lithium ion, i guess, shows how technical i am, batteries. Next generation Battery Technologies have the potential to have a momentous impact on markets, International Politics and climate change, enriching some countries and governments while exacerbating the economic woes of others. But how close we are to seeing these developments play out in the real world and what the obstacles are, thats what were going to talk about today. And our speakers today seek to answer these questions and more. Steve levine, who ive known for many, many years and maybe the preeminent Energy Journalist anywhere, is the washington correspondent for quartz, thats quartz. In his long and distinguished career, hes covered geopolitics, energy and technology with extraordinarily keen eye. Inside the invention of a battery to save the world provided the inspiration for todays event. I might say that there are some copies that are available outside afterwards. Steve has also written the oil and the glory. And i think has just a tremendous ability to take very technical subjects and write about it in a way that ordinary nontechnological types like me can understand. And in the process of writing his book, steve has worked extensively with dr. Jeff chamberlain, who is the executive director of the joint Energy StorageResearch Facility at the Argonne National laboratory. And in that role dr. Chamberlain has worked at the cutting edge of Energy Storage and next generation Battery Technology. So i couldnt be happier to kick off our new Technology Series with such a great pair of speakers on such a fascinating topic. And the way this will be handled as compared to some Atlantic Council events, it will be a conversation really between steve and jeff. Steve i guess will start off and introduce the subject. And they will talk back and forth. And then im sure well open it up to your questions a little bit later. So, again, thank you all for coming. And, steve and jeff, its all yours. Its actually jeff whos going to start out. Thanks for that introduction. Yes, ill start off. As wz just mentioned im Jeff Chamberlain, im a scientist from Argonne National laboratory. I appreciate everyone coming here on such a Beautiful Day like it is today and coming inside to listen to us talk. I happen to work at a National Laboratory, and what that is is a place where your tax dollars are invested to do things for the nation. It happens to be research. And mostly its very fundamental research aimed at enabling the development of technology that will change our lives. Not only our daytoday lives, but change our lives in terms of Gross Domestic Product in this country, and jobs, et cetera. Since were a little limited on time is to dive right into the conversation if youre all right with that, steve. Okay. And maybe to finish a little bit of an introduction, if you havent read the book yet, this is actually quite a surreal thing happening right now. And i hope you have read or will read the book and enjoy the surrealty, if thats a word, of what youre witnessing, because i am a character in the book that steve writes about. Glad to get some chuckles there because it is a very odd experience to be a character in a story that other people are reading in black and white. But it makes this conversation quite surreal. Youre going to see the evidence of several years of work that steve has done working with me and other people at Argonne National laboratory to write the story that i think is a very good story in the book. So enjoy that surreal nature of the book. Enjoy this surreal moment when you read the book. Ill start with a very obvious question. And i think we particularly the scientists in the lab are eager to have our story told, but also very suspicious as to whether it can be told in a compelling way when youre doing science in the laboratory. So my first question is, generally speaking, why write this book . Why batteries . Why science . Why technology . Thanks, jeff. First i wanted to thank ambassador morningstar for her having us today. And inviting us to be the guest for the inaugural session for the inaugural Technology Session for the new Energy Center here at Atlantic Council. So why batteries and why argonne, i get this all the time. You wrote a whole book about batteries . Are you talking about batteries . I mean, batteries in my tv . You know, in my radio and so on and whats the big thing about that. What i saw back in 2010 and 2011 when i decided to do this, this book, was the big geopolitics. And that was that first i noticed that there was a lot of people talking about batteries. And this is just a couple years after the financial crash. And this soul searching going on bringing down the idea that the United StatesFinancial System and shenanigans going on in the United States had almost brought down the Global Economy. And it put us in trouble, the United States in trouble. And could we create an economy that had the foundation of Something Real that we were making and not, you know, and not a bubble, a real estate bubble, a dot com bubble, and so on. And in country after country, 20 countri countries grabbing onto batteries the next big thing. Real economies could be built on a superbattery, taking these batteries that we currently have and making them three, four, five times better. And then that being worth tens of billions of dollars by themselves. And then if you could get them into electric cars, build an electric car industry, then suddenly you had new hundredbilliondollarayear industries. The size of, back then, google, exxon. And that was a big thing especially if it empowered nations. If it undermined nations. If the United States, for example, if it won this race among nations created the super battery, created these industries, was using less oil and china was using less oil and countries whos power and influence in the world since the 70s had distorted global geopolitics because they had oil, opec, russia would suddenly by comparison have less power. All of that was very exciting. And the proof of that was before, right, and we can go into that later. Before i had actually got you guys to agree to let me in, i told my publisher that you had already agreed. And, you know yeah, i did that. And that was one of my shenanigans. But they bought into that whole thing that i just laid out was very exciting for them. So thats why. So ive heard you say lets put some numbers to this that in the last nine months theres been an additional excess of 3 million to 5 Million Barrels a day of oil put on the market through the shale gas or Shale Oil Revolution. Could you talk a little about that and what the implications are if a super battery not only can move us around in vehicles but can also be put on the grid, what is that equivalent to in terms of a demand reduction that would be comparable to an increase in supply that weve been seeing the last year . So couple of ways of looking at that is, one, we have an experiment in motion. We are watching shale oil change j geopolitics, and will continue to to the degree it has longevity and traction. It is 4 Million Barrels a day, going on five, thats come on the market, that did not exist three years ago four years ago 2011. And has put opec into chaos, has undermined Vladimir Putin and put the u. S. In a much stronger position internationally. Thats the same volume. Now, when citibank came out with a report three or four months ago talking only about stationery batteries shifting into our utilitieutilities, our companies, being adopted by countries like saudi arabia and japan that currently burn a lot of oil to shave the peak periods of the burning oil to create electrici electricity. If just stationary batteries moved in and that had a forecast, how many, how much penetration stationary batteries would penetrate. And by the year 2020, 4 Million Barrels a day of oil current oil consumption, would be removed from the market. Its the mirror image of adding the 4 Million Barrels a day. So what you would have if shale oil theres a debate going on right now how real this Shale Oil Revolution is. The bears say this is it, youre watching it, its going to be over next year. And the bulls say, well, actually not. This is going to be going on through the 2020s and onto 2030 or so. If the bears are wrong, then around 2020 and citi is right, you would have the same impact same Geopolitical Impact as youre watching with the shale oil. If the bulls are right, you have this compound impact. Its a tremendous momentous impact that changes our presumptions. And presumptions around the world about what happens next. What our Foreign Policy should be around the world because the underpinnings of it are being pulled out look like theyre being pulled out before our eyes. Thanks for that. And maybe to drive home the point of why i think we think its so important to develop what steve calls the super battery is the way some of us tend to think of it is were aiming at, and you heard elements of this