Guess, that were scheduled to go there, and i will be happy to listen to anyones comment on what they think this might be added on here for and what it either foresees or doesnt. Thank you. Okay. We have the three questions. The consequences of the Trump Presidency on Foreign Policy. Onechina policy, whether its being challenged. And whether ill start with the first good question. Everyones going to have a different view on this, but i think i think there are some very hard lessons ahead for the United States. This would be my view. The first would be that you look at a succession of regional bipartisan administrations, democratic and republican, and you look at the status of certain kinds of negotiations. And then you look at President Trump and you have found that in a lot of circumstances, countries have put more on the table than we would have anticipated. M particularly china. Other countries would also be in that case. The question is you treat countries reasonably, responsibly, miin some of their approaches. You act difficult a end unreasonably and at least in the short term, there can be potential positive outcomes on the trade front in particular. I think thats a bad lesson, but i think is a lesson that some would take. I think the other issue is i think the idea that you see, particularly among some of my democratic colleagues, is that if a democratic leader is elected, that there would be some outpouring of gratitude and relief. I dont think thats the case. I think whats much more likely is that we will be attacked and criticized that we had gone that direction in the first place and theyre going to feel more comfortable saying things that they may not be as comfortable now. They will count on the reasonableness of a new administration so they will be able to exert their displeasure more assertassertively. Thats going to be tough for a new administration that would want a, you know, oh, thank god, youre back. There may be a little of that but not nearly as much as we think. And i do believe that there are going to be elements of trumpism that will continue, and i take no i take no pleasure in that, and i think its going to be difficult but i think hes had a much more profound impact on americas role in the world than we realize now. And i think there will be deep fundamental rethinking of how you link up what the middle class wants in the world to what a new administration does. So im not sure i know whats going to go forward, but im certain that it will be much more difficult than o resurrect deeply predictable confident set of interactions between the two sides. And to the question about onechina policy, think the questions are much more fundamental about u. S. Relations with china about technology policy, about trade, as tom and others have suggested. I dont think that is the fundamental debate. In the past, that may have been an issue that occasionally is debated on the sidelines. I think fundamentally, right now, it is about the core issues between the United States and china and economic trade policy. Yeah, so i wanted to i wanted to Say Something about the people leaving the state department. You know, it it was one of the great honors of my career to serve briefly in the state department for a couple of years with career professionals that are there. Im looking at cathie stevesens. People like that. Yeah. It was an incredible experience. Its an underappreciated asset for the United States in the security realm. That these people who learn foreign languages, spend a lot of time abroad, get build relationships and really understand strategy and policy across administrations, and theyre there and theyre an anchor and ballast in our Foreign Policy. When people like that leave, its extremely damaging. You cant just replace them overnight because you can have a very smart person. Can get a smart person in there, a highly educated person in there. To build the experience that these people have is very, very difficult and time consuming. So i think of my colleague, my former deputy, susan thornton, who served 30 years in the state department and recently left. You cant just replace susan thornton. She speaks russian, chinese. She spends all this time around the world. She gets it. Right . So when she leaves, its a big damage. We spend a lot of time thinking about the military and not enough about the foreign service. Yeah. On the onechina policy, ill just say, you know, i dont want to go into a lecture. The u. S. Onechina policy is not the same thing as chinas onechina principle and its not the same thing in a very important way is that its very flexible. The u. S. Onechina policy. Different things can be emphasized and be consistent with the onechina policy. And i would expect as administrations change and as challenges arise, different parts of that to be emphasized. For example, arms sales to taiwan, they may go up because the military challenge, but thats consistent with onechina policy. Youre saying will the United States fundamentally break out of that the broad constraints of the onechina policy . And it is imaginable. I can tell you how that would happen. If it were to happen. I dont think thats going to happen. Because i think people would realize that it would not be in anyones interest and would not be in taiwans interest. Thats the most important thing. So i often say that everybody in the United States loves taiwan. Some americans want to love taiwan to death. Just one other thing, this point about i agree with tom, and the state department really is a fantastic institution, and there is real damage thats been done. But its not going to be enough to say its going to take us 20, 25 years to rebuild. We will not have that luxury. And so there needs to be some really insightful looks at how other institutions have rebuilt quickly under duress. I think some of that is going to require some midcareer hires taking some lessons from business, other institutions. The military as an example, we have in certain periods rebuilt. Its not just money. Its how you retain, how you go gua guard. Were going to have to look at policies and see what we can do to try to rebuild the state department as we go guaforward it will be really difficult. By nature, these are things that take 15, 20, 25 years. Any other comment . I feel like you have one more comment. I wanted to, again, thank victor for being who he is and providing this opportunity. I know the chair is bigger than the man, but, you know, hes been in the chair since it started. So, you know, just maybe a round of applause for him. [ applause ] so i think we are about to go and celebrate and have a reception. So, thank i want you to join me thanking the panel for this excellent discussion from the region. Thank you. [ applause ] thank you, dr. Terry. Before we go to the celebration, we have a few closing remarks. So were now transitioning to the party. So there is there is there is an open bar. There is lots of food. We really want you to stay for the next part of the program which is the evening reception and the presentation of an award to our president and ceo, john hamry. So, please, dont leave. Youre not allowed to leave. [ laughter ] and enjoy some of the food and then well be back. We have an excellent panel that will sort of close out the days discussions, featuring ambassador stevens, general brooks, and a number of other people, so, please, do not leave. Stay with us until the end. And is there anything else . Of course, thank you to president lee for the fourth, i hope successful, strategic forum. So please enjoy some drinks, some food, and then join us in about half an hour. Right . H [ applause ] this allday forum on u. S. Relations with south korea currently in a break. Were going to continue our live coverage at 5 30 eastern time with a panel looking at nuclear diplomacy. Until then, we take you back to the discussion from earlier today on President Trumps upcoming summit with south koreas president moon jaein. Thank you, everybody, for joining with this occasion and thanks to csis for inviting me and the panel to participate. I wanted to give a special, of course, congratulations to the korea chair and to victor for all the job that youve done over the past decade now. Probably seems like going quickly, but for us journalists, im a reporter at the Washington Post, victor and the korea chair have been a valuable, valuable resource both, obviously, in the past two years but even before that i was bugging victor and others in the program quite often, maybe many times you didnt necessarily want to be bugged, but for a terrific analysis and to help sort of walk me through whats happening. And so i wanted to take a timeout to thank the korea chair for that. And to congratulate you for such a successful ten years. I am a reporter with the Washington Post, and i cover the white house, and ive been doing that for about seven or eight years. First under the obama administration, now the past 2 1 2 with President Trump. It has been quite an experience shifting between the two, but one thing i focused on the entire time thats kind of a through line is asia policy because its so important, starting with president obamas pivot to asia. So its my great honor to be hosting this panel. I wanted to say that well be discussing i know theres three panels today so well be discussing the u. S. rok alliance and as a journalist, i like to be very topical, but let me introduce the panel then well have sort of a healthy discussion about where we are. Its an auspicious week, of course, because President Trump is headed to the region first to osaka for the g20 as you know, and then to seoul for an important summit with moon jaein and well sort of ask the panelists quite a bit about that. Ill be on the trip along with several of my colleagues and i leave tomorrow. So very much looking forward to that. Of course, we have victor cha, hardly needs an introduction, here to my left. Victor founded the korea chair in 2009. As we mentioned has served after having served as director of Asian Affairs in the National Security council in the Bush Administration from 2004 to 2007. That role, of course, victor was very involved with the sixparty talks and other negotiations with north korea that have predated where we are today. Author of five books including the impossible state north korea, past and future. And i believe victor, youll see him quite a bit on nbc and msnbc as an analyst. Of course, right next to victor, ambassador joseph yun. Thank you for joining. He probably needs also very little introduction. Joe is currently a Senior Adviser at the asia program at the u. S. Institute of peace. Before that, he served 33 years as a diplomat. And for two years, you well know was from 2016 to 2018 was the u. S. Special envoy to north korea and he was a key player, of course, in reestablishing communications with pyongyang through the new york channel and of course traveling to north korea to ultimately secure the release of otto warmbier, so thank you, joe, for all your service. I think joe also a regular contributor at cnn if im not mistaken. Kbh competitor well have a little faceoff here. I think next to ambassador yun we have dr. June kim whos a professor at hondong Universitys Department of international studies. Conducted Extensive Research or the u. S. rok alliance as well as the interkorea relationship on the peninsula. Previously served as the director of security and diplomacy center. An independent think tank. And he spent time prior to that as a visiting fullbright scholar at george mason university, not far from where i grew up in northern virginia. So thank you, dr. Kim. We have next, of course, another diplomat, joy yamamoto who last fall took over as the director of the korea desk at the state department. A job she assumed after serving as the minister counselor for Economic Affairs at the u. S. Embassy in seoul. Joy is obviously very much involved in all the things that well be talking about today. Very happy to have joy with us. Before that, she had previously also served as a diplomat in indonesia and china and other locations around the world, and also, close to my heart, was a former newspaper reporter. So she knows all my tricks and, joy, youre on the record today because this is a big crowd and being broadcast. Finally, we have dr. Sonheon lee. Also serves as the president of the Korean Nuclear policy society. Dr. Lee served as the director general for policy planning. The minister of Foreign Affairs from 2011 to 2013. Hes authored numerous papers and analyses including a summary of the u. S. Dprk summit in hanoi. So, thank you, to our panelists. Were just going to jump right into a dialogue rather than have opening presentations which i think sometimes slows things down. As a journalist, i mentioned were interested right now in whats happening and no better time to have this panel than the president s trip and i sort of want to get right at it. I think theres a lot of interest now after what seemed to be a dark period in our diplomacy, in our dialogue, after the collapse of the hanoi summit which i was at, about whats going to happen, how to get the talks back on track. Now weve seen what tends to be the path with this president , this administration, which is sort of a direct leadertoleader engagement. Exchange of the socalled love letters that President Trump might call them. Most, you know, first kim jongun apparently sent a letter to the president , and then you saw arou around his birthday. Then. You saw a reciprocal letter just being reported over the weekend which kim jongun received apparently from President Trump. The white house has confirmed that letter was sent. And that that letter contained, according to the state news agency, excellent content, and that the chairman is considering it. That raises a lot of intriguing possibility. I know its been a lot of discussion about what to make of this summit between moon and President Trump coming up, but maybe i can just start with victor and well go down the line a little bit about what we think about a third summit, do we see now that these exchange have sort of renewed that idea and that President Trump we dont know a lot about what was in the letter but do we see a third summit and what does that mean, what would it take for us to get to that place . Sure. Well, thanks for the question. The other thing you should all know before we get started, david didnt properly introduce himself because what he is most known for in the korea policy Expert Community is hes the only journalist that we know that has asked a question of kim jongun at a press conference and gotten an answer. I joke now that i joke now on my tombstone it will say, he shouted a question at the most ruthless dictator and lived for a while to tell about it. I did write a story about that moment. I was in the press pool in hanoi. I had been in singapore f. For the first summit, i was not in the pool, a small group of 13 reporters allowed into the photo ops. Everybody cannot get in. That pool, both television, radio, and print, me, writes a summary and sends it out of what happens, of course. I was very disappointed not to be in the pool for the singapore summit. Had to sort of remain in the hotel and hope for some briefings. I actually went to kim jonguns hotel when he first arrived. I waited about four hours with ordinary folks on the streets right off the shopping corridor in the hot sun to just get a glimpse of the moteor rid acade running bodyguards and wrote a scene piece, why we stand on the street with our kids with my ipad, get a glimpse of this ruthless dictator. I was very thrilled the wo Washington Post was the Pool Reporter for hanoi. When we went in, as a group we said we need to shout something to kim. President trump engages so quick, after the photo op, reporters immediately shouted to President Trump and he answered and i sort of positioned myself closer to kim and was just sort of keeping an eye on him, try to make some eye contact, then when i heard trump stop talking i finally shouted, chairman kim, do you feel good about a deal . He kind of looked at me. I did one of these feel good. As i wrote in the subsequent piece, now you get taken to task if you write something about being, you know, too chummy with a dictator, why are you normalizing this guy . But my point, this was a universal sign of feel good, you feel good. I didnt know it would happen but i was sort of time slows down and youre in the moment. I saw if you look at the replay trumps interpreter leans over, they both have an interpreter and trumps interpreter leans over and i guess interprets my question or indicates its for him. Then he responds. So i was thrilled. In the moment, at the end of the piece, i didnt realize no one had ever done that or gotten a response. But we were quickly ushered out as they didnt want to keep letting us have a chance. Then rushed back to send a pool report out. Thats when i, you know, then saw on twitter and so on that this had made some big news. You know, what he said was i feel hopeful, but, you know, we feel hopeful but were not there yet, so at a time were assuming there would be some sort of interim deal, thats all signs that sort of led to that, but, you know, in reality, he wasnt there yet. They may be hopeful. I think my colleague, anna, used the quote at the end of her book on kim jongun, the hopeful feeling, well see. That was the experience. But id love to see if my colleague, you know, on this trip or subsequent, may have another chance because it seems certainly that another summit doesnt seem like were close to that but we should be close to that, but because the president does things differently, were coming up on a quacampaign, id love to go down the line briefly about i feel like theres i want to echo what rich just said in the beginning, theres something in the air. I think theres something in the air. After the hanoi summit, there was basically no dialogue taking place. All the efforts at the working level to make