Transcripts For CSPAN3 The Presidency Secret Service Protect

CSPAN3 The Presidency Secret Service Protection July 13, 2024

Those guys know how to tell a story. It is a rare treat to have the curtain pulled back from those who were on the front lines of protecting the president and the first family. We are honored to be joined tonight by three secret Service Agents Whose Service almost approached 82 years. Lary, 22 year veteran of the secret service. Larry was honored with the u. S. Secret Service Valor Award for his role in stopping an assassination attempt on president gerald ford in september of 1975 in sacramento. Later larry served 25 years as the security chief of the United States olympic committee. Joe clancy is with us tonight. Joe served on the protective details of residence, including president bush, or trailblazers as he wouldve called them. President bush with strobe laser. Joes nearly 30 year career culminated in 2015 when president obama named joe the 24th director of the u. S. Secret service. He was in charge. Today joe is the chief Security Officer at comcast corporation. Nick is with us tonight. He served 30 years in the secret service. Helped protect five president s, including president bush. Worked on large scale events. Did a lot of post nine of travel, including secret trips to iraq and afghanistan. You may have seen him in a documentary or two talking about being on the field at Yankee Stadium as president bush throughout the first pitch before game three of the 2001 world series. What a moment. Also pleased to have with us as moderator, spencer, the former Deputy Assistant to the president for operation in advance at the white house under president bush. In that role, he oversaw the integration of dozens of military security and operational agencies all involved in president ial travel, including the u. S. Secret service. Today he serves as a global director of Business Development for a show called inc. , in International Event production company. We had planned to have former secret Service Agent kathleen, but due to a medical issue she is unable to be here. All of us on the stage tonight wish her a speedy recovery. We are so grateful to joe, nick and larry for making a time as our former agent experts to be with us here tonight. Lets welcome them on to the stage. [applause] we have a fantastic program tonight, and some really interesting information on the secret service, how it runs and a lot of back stories that you will find fascinating. Lets get started. Joe, director clancy, i should say. As a former director of the secret service, can you set the scene of the secret service history. It is unusual for agents to sit on stage. We are talking into our sleeves, and talking into these mics are a challenge. Because of our training, any sudden movements might create [laughter] we already noticed a couple of people do not applaud when we walked in. [laughter] it is a tremendous history, over 150 years. It started april 14th, 1865. April 14, 1865, said we had this counterfeit currency. Abraham lincoln gave him the green light president lincoln went to fords theatre. We all know happened at fords theater. We continue to do investigations as we say throughout our history. We have gone from the paper investigations. Into the digital cyber world, we are one of the best in the world at that as well. Most people think of the secret service when you think of the protection assignment. The Protection Mission when you think of the secret service. 1901, after president mckinleys assassination, that is when we started protecting president s. A couple of years later we got funding from congress to do that. It continue to progress with taking on candidates after Robert Kennedys assassination. We started taking on heads of state, children, wives, spouses, protect these ao we get into some of the as we go through the program. Cain talked about the Training Academy in maryland, and then the number of employed agents. The president ial campaign coming up, we have 24 candidates. How much manpower will that require . [laughter] every Campaign Season is a challenge for the secret service. I think our history proves we have done a good job at handling that. It is a tremendous challenge for our men and women in the secret service, and to their credit, they do a marvelous job. When you look at the history of the country, most of those world events, the secret service was behind the scenes allowing those events to take place. A lot of it had to do with our training. We have a terrific Training Facility in maryland. You will see examples tonight were that training really paid off in world events. I think we have a picture that happened of an event that happened at the white house. Tell us about that. Normally you see secret Service Agents in night suits with their ear piece in but you never see their weapons. Here is a photo of a long gun. Can you tell us about what happened here . President bush was just coming back from a visit out of town. We came back to the white house. Typically, once you get inside the gates of the white house, there is a sense of relief that you have accomplished your mission. There is a little bit of a deep breath. Just as we are pulling up to the oval office area where the president gets out, you have seen it many times in a press where he will walk up to the oval office, we got over the radio that there was a fence jumper. The fence jumper was over on the ease part of the complex over by the treasury building. I was sitting in the right front seat of the limousine and i had to turn back to the president and say, we have a fence jumper and we have to stand in the vehicle until we get the issue resolved. And he said, a fence jumper, where . He started looking behind him and looking through. I was kind of glad for that response. After a few seconds goes on, you cannot see the fence jumper and i am not hearing its all clear yet. Then we say we have to get into the oval office. All that time i knew the uniformed officers and the agents were going to get this individual. I was confident that we would stay in an armored vehicle. You dont know when someone jumps a fence if they are armed. Stay in the safe area. Could we have evacuated the south grounds, yes. I was confident we would get him in a matter of seconds. I open the door and let president bush out. It might be hard for you to see that, but he was smirking because he knew i was sweating through my suit. [laughter] for those of you who knows president bush he likes to run on time and does not like to wait. Larry, in 1975, you saved president fords wife. Tell us that story. I think we have a video we will show you of the attempted assassination and then you can talk them through that day. [video clip] it was midmorning in sacramento when president ford left a hotel to walk to the state capital for a meeting with governor edmund brown junior to speak to the state legislator. This was a political trip. Part of the president s campaign to lock up the republican nomination. He was shaking hands as he went along, working the crowd as politician say. And it was a friendly crowd accompanied by secret Service Agents. The president reached for every hand in sight. Suddenly, a young Woman Holding a gun appeared at the president s side. A secret Service Agent route the gun and wrestled the young woman to the gun as other agents formed a tight protective shield around the president and moved him swiftly to the capital. [end of video clip] there you are apprehending the wouldbe assassin. I should have had a haircut back in the 1970s. That is what my mother said when she heard about it. [laughter] i was working the shift, the morning shift. The president was scheduled to speak at the capitol. He walks out of the hotel, the motorcade was there. It was scheduled. A large crowd across the street waiting to see him. It was a nice sunny day in california. He goes, i think i will walk, because it was across the park in the building was right there. It caused a scramble with agents and the police trying to move the crowd in the right direction to get them so that there is a pathway. The crowd is across so as he walked along he could shake hands. My position at the time was right at his left shoulder. As hes walking along shaking hands, i am concentrating on his hands, kind of in the downward motion because having anybody grabbed too long, take his watch, whatever, out in the crowd is a member of the Charlie Manson family who happen to be carrying a 45 strapped to her ankle. She was back a couple people in the crowd. As he shaking hands suddenly i see this hand, put something in it. At that time i did not know it was a weapon, but i stepped in front of the president to stop the hands from coming up because i did not want him to get hit with whatever it was. The minute i hated i knew it was a gun. I yelled out, gun. One of my very best friend leaves with the president. [laughter] part of our training program. You are on your own, buddy. She is screaming and the crowd is screaming and i got a hold of her hand and i got the gun and i was pushing. I did not have my vest on so, i am thinking that i dont know if there is more to this than that will happen but i know i not letting go over and push her back to the crowd. The crowd is screaming shes got a gun, she screaming. I keep pushing her away. By then, the president is gone with the agents. I drop her down to the ground. Some of the agents and police from the back of the crowd came forward. I noticed one of the agents from the shift and i hand him the gun and proceeds to cuff her which is happening now. What you see. Once she was cuffed i turned her over to the agency. That was from our Intelligence Division and the police went back and rejoin the shift. It was pretty fast and furious and it was a matter of seconds and you have a chance to sit back and think about how fast it went down. [applause] what did she say . Did she make any comments . Supposedly she was saying it did not go off. I did grab it and cut my hand. For months i cap jabbing the wound to make sure it would stay open so i could go and see this. [laughter] that healed way too fast. It was just a little cut. When i hit it i think i stopped the fight. She did not have a round chamber. If she did it would have gone through me and that chamber. While he back to air force one i got pulled off to remain in sacramento to be interviewed by the fbi, who takes jurisdiction once we have an attempt like that. Mrs. Ford was there was waiting, she had gone in the other direction. When he boarded the plane she turned her head and said, well, how was your day mr. President. Well, not so good. I know the country is better for your duty that day and taking care of our president. September 11, 2001 is a day that changed our country forever. Can you, nick and joe walked us through that day. Talk about the fog of that day and trying to determine who was trying to decapitate our leadership of our country, and sort of how you dealt with it throughout the day . Its one of those moments in history where everyone can pretty much identify and recall where you are that day. For some reason i had come in early that morning. I did not accompany the president. I waited for him to return. For whatever reason i went to the white house early that morning. I was actually working out and hyhj was watching sports highlights and then i saw the first plane like everyone else. It was the second line when we realize that we were under attack. Mrs. Bush was at the u. S. Capitol at the time. It took some time to see what was happening. We wanted to get her away from the capital. We had known that there were three planes down. The plane had just hit the pentagon. As i decided to go in connect with mrs. Bush as being relocated her from the capital. As we mentioned earlier in the green room, there were about six planes that were still and identified at the time right after the plane hitting the pentagon. It was a challenging day because, the United States had not been attacked since pearl harbor. You look at the oklahoma bombing. At this case we have the president in florida who wanted to come back. You have the first lady who wanted to be teamed up with her husband. So, communication, we restricted communication because of the nature of what was happening and then the president was relocated to louisiana as everyone got to see. It took some time, the president wanted to come back. We werent sure what was happening yet. The airspace was controlled and then it was not until later on in the evening that a decision was made by the president that he was adamant that he was going to address the nation from the white house. It was at that point that we linked up the president and the first lady. What is your recollection . I was in japan with the secretary oneill. We just arrived from china to japan and that was 9 00 in the evening and i went to my room, turned on the tv and just as nick described, saw the aircraft crashing into the world trade center, went down to secretary oneill and said, i dont think he had seen it yet. We immediately try to get an aircraft that come to the states. All the aircraft were grounded. It took 24 hours to get a military flight to fly back to washington, d. C. Tell us a little bit about post9 11 with respect to the development of the department of Homeland Security and that day sort of revealed a lot of things about how we treated security and how our government ran with respect to this kind of an attack and sort of the deficiencies that were uncovered and how the department of Homeland Security came about. It developed after 9 11. At the time the secret service was under the department of the u. S. Treasury. You had other entities. You had alcohol, tobacco and firearms. He had other departments under justice. Law enforcement and the Intelligence Community were in different agencies. U. S. Coast guard was offered transportation. It was not until dhs put it all under one roof. You had all of the Law Enforcement outside of those in the department of justice. And it took some time. There were growing pains. With it, just like anything else, it was one of those moments in history when you see that the department was created. Everyone was under one roof. We were able to communicate. We were able to share a bit better than previously. It was then, how does the country move forward after such a tragic event like that. Let alone the new creation of departments and other things that the department of defense was doing. And other men and women across the whole United States that were trying to strengthen and make the homeland safe. But it was then the president and first lady, how to move and get folks moving. I remember the president saying, if he just stayed in the white house, folks in new york and washington, d. C. May not go out. Other oppressive the country were affected, but those in new york and washington, d. C. Was at home. When you talk to the folks up in new york that lived it, it was getting the country back. It was creating these movements. I think a lot of you remember there were a couple of things. If you days after the attack at the world trade center, president bush went to new york city and stood on the rebel plow and that is where the famous video where he toured the museum. You see the bullhorn were he gave the remarks from. It was that going to new york and immediately after 9 11 and really letting the American People know that we will move forward in the country and get through this. I think we have a picture of it. The bigger event was the yankees were in the world series. Mlb had debated whether they would call it off, whether they should delay. Talk to us about that event. I think that was one of the seminal events in president bushs presidency that really unify the country. A back story prior to, the president was hosting a strategy meeting at camp david shortly after. We were departing going to camp david. I was accompanying the president on the trip. As the press was on the south grounds and i am not sure why, but when the president came out of the oval office, he singled me over and i was not sure if he was calling me over or if there was someone behind me. He had come over and said, guess what, we are going to the a Yankee Stadium. I said, what . [laughter] thats how he was. He just calm the whole situation down. It was a stressful time and i was in shock. We are getting ready to go to camp david and he, to everyone down by saying we are going to the world series. I forgot the yankees were in the world series. We would tease each other. As we prepared to go, new york city, we had all sources to assist. Those that get a chance to watch the espn document, you will see the behind the scenes, the stress and the buildup. Everyone in the stadium had been going through metal detectors. I think Billy Crystal was very clear, if i have to get to the world series and we have to go through metal detectors, we will do it. It was unique time. The planning was difficult. It was an extremely stressful period, you got the world series of Major League Baseball going on, but you have the president of the United States going not just to the stadium, but going to the field for the mound. That was to draw out the first pitch. The planning between new york city supports, the other federal partners made the event go slow. The planning to allow him to go out to the mound, he went all the way to the mound to throb the pitch without any security around him. All of that was possible because of the planning. Tell us a little bit about where agents were, and there is a photo and the baseball fans picked up right away because you had the two extra umpires. While there was an extra one. Again, just an incident with larry, you had the agents and the assassination attempt of president ford as he said, they all left him. Thats what we are trained to do. The agents respond to protect. Again, it was a unique situation. It was, just the planning that had gone on between him going to the mound, whether or not he was actually going to stay for part of the game, stay for the game, where he would sit,

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