cancel additional purchases of the c-17 cargo plane. we're proposing to eliminate any additional spending on the alternative engine for the f-35. we're proposing to terminate the cgx ship that the navy thinks is not necessary. so there are a variety of terminations and reductions that are in the pentagon budget. secretary gates is looking for efficiencies while also protecting our troops in the middle a war. >> if you limit nate the big-ticket items you could still have a huge budget to freeze at the current level and still have growth in the areas which you feel are productive to national security. >> well, let's look at the defense budget. roughly a third is personnel. again, while we're at war, we're going to make sure we're protecting our troops. roughly a third is operation and maintenance. again, especially during wartime, we need to make sure that those activities are