with attachment disorder, particularly r.a.d., likely because they have early damage to their brain during infancy due to exposure to alcohol, malnourishment, smoking, drugs, environmental toxins and infections. so it's -- >> so there's an actual physical damage? >> there's actual organic and physical damage that now has been -- it has been studied by neuroscientists who really have analyzed and looked at the brain usi using c.a.t. scans, mris, p.e.t. scans. >> so what can a parent do in a case like this. the ranch gary talked about costs $3500 a month. obviously, a lot of money for a lot of folks. >> i don't think -- i don't think that most kids with reactive attachment disorder end up in ranch for kids, by the way. i think lots of kids under go an array of treatments. there are many therapeutic modalities that can be used for kids with attachment disorder.