there will be scenes of him happy with his wife because she's the one who needs to rebuild the trust with him. i think that will help other women see men in a different light as well. he has a big role here to play and i see one big obstacles, which women don't understand the way men recover from traumatic events is often by doing things they're good at. he'll be playing golf. people will think he doesn't care about the tragedy he created when the opposite is true. >> lisa, as a woman and a person who helps people through crises, how do you do? >> i'm glad to be here tonight representing the planet, venus, john. i think there was one small step forward for women today. that is this. we did not see elin, thank goodness, standing next to him the way we've seen so many wives of famous staff in the past. for example, silda spitzer, wife of former governor eliot