>> larry: how old were you when you started to skate? >> i was 8. >> larry: did you want to go into hockey? >> i met chris chelios and decided i wanted to be like him. i had no ability, so i started basic figure skating classeses. i hated it at first, but once i got enough stability to go fast and feel the wind on my face, it's a unique feeling being on ice. so i fell in love with the sport. to this date, with everything that comes along with it, for me to step out on the training rink and feel the wind on my faces, it's pretty cool. >> larry: when you're skating, do you feel falling? >> as i get older, falling hurts more than it used to. >> larry: or do you think, oh, i almost fell. >> not really. i think work on specific elements like the quadruple toe loop or even a triple toe loop