step by step basis. it's arrogant, as lamar alexander, would put it, for 100 senators to think they can control 70% of the economy. the american people can have a chance to judge. into isn't it likely with all the tv cameras and people watching, politicians instinctively will posture? >> i think they will be on their best behavior simply because that's exactly what people are expecting. i think we are not likely to see the sorts of things that we might be able to see where behind close hfd door meetings open, and that is that's when people butt heads. i think because this is all about who's being bipartisan, who's really going to come to a compromise, i think both sides don't want to be the ones that sound like they're transigent, that they're bullying the other side. i just think most people believe at this point, at least on capitol hill, that you're not going to get a lot of substance coming out of this meeting. you may get an airing, as david