determined by the implements and procedures used to make them, which essentially means just because we in the media don't know what the impact is, doesn't mean there haven't been an impact. so because -- >> i don't think it is as big as haiti, without a question. even though it is an 8.8 instead of a 7.0, a lot more shaking went on, many more people were effected violently with the haitian earthquake. i don't think most people know this -- >> so these reports that i just heard, that they don't have any information from the coastal areas, and that the roads are blocked so they can't get in there, and the telephones aren't working, et cetera, et cetera, doesn't mean that the areas are impacted as we have seen areas like you were making the analogy to haiti, exec. but it doesn't mean they weren't effected. >> right. there are not 3 million people living in rock and stone house that is don't have martyr our rebar holding the houses up. >> that's great perspective. you know, chad, that is