heavily taken up in poor communities all around philadelphia. upwards of 70% of children in north philadelphia, african-americans and latino children, 70% of those children are overweight or obese. so i think that it is inappropriate to just lay this at the feet of the poor as somehow inappropriate. quite frankly, many poor communities in philadelphia need this kind of help and support, which is what public service is about. >> mayor nutter, i appreciate your time on this. i hoped to have a debate on this but i knew you wouldn't appear with our next guest, so i'm going to let him come on and give his side of the story. unfortunately, you won't get a chance to respond, but let me bring in right now state senator golden who is the state senator, morton golden, excuse me, who is