aggregate. it surprises me who michael wolff who is a veteran journalist, and know what it takes to get the news, would not want to set up a site to give credit and allow those sources on which he relies to get some benefit out of it. that's the equation. either you pay money or you send traffic back to the sources. >> i have to go. i have 15 seconds. >> sharon interests are in what is good for the media interest. my interest is what's good for the readers. what we have to do as people in this business is think about our readers, not ourselves. >> i have to think about our viewers. we have to move on. glad you both had a chance to make your points. michael wolff, sharon waxman joining us. broccoli. some nbc shows practically lecturing us on how to eat well. highly anticipated. s