instincts and you just kind of read the way the crab are moving, and it just takes -- there's only 70 of us in the world. >> larry: only 70. >> only 70 crab fishermen in the world. >> larry: keith, do you ever feel like you're killing something that's living? >> no. the fisheries in alaska are some of the most regulated fisheries in the planet. the crab stocks are healthy. they're doing really well. and we take just a minute portion of the male biomass off the ground. at the end of the day, we don't kill them, we give them to the processors, they kill them. >> larry: they control it well, then, the fisheries? >> everybody wants a sustainable fishery. and that's what it's all about. i want a fishery for the next generation and thereafter. and so keith's right. i mean, we're -- politically, the fishermen join in. we're with the feds. i mean, it's all regulated. we used to take 45% of the males off the ground. now we're only taking 15% of the males off the ground. so i mean, actually, we're so conservative, it's too much. >> 15% of the four-inch males