science, definitive science what we know about the cosmos, but in an educating and in an informative and in an entertaining way so that a global audience on discovery channel could be sort of interested in this. >> larry: ben, does the british government take this seriously? >> i'm not -- i'm not sure i'm qualified to answer that, but i don't think so. >> larry: john -- well, ben, you first. the tendency has been to kind of dismiss this, until mr. hawking arrived, as kind of kooky, right? >> maybe it's been overstated slightly from what he actually says in the film. what he says in the film is that if intelligent aliens exist -- that's a big if -- and that's were to meet us, that's another big if, then we might be wise to treat them with caution. it's not stephen saying as far as i know in any way, stephen is not saying aliens are coming, we've got to hide under the bed. he is not trying to frighten anyone. he is just saying if you follow