received so far, what were you told would have been the worst case scenario had the device actually exploded? >> well, i can't say that i was told anything explicit to give a particular dimension to it except to say that this would have created a tremendous fireball in that area where a lot of people are moving through all the time. i conclude it would have killed a lot of people. whether it would have brought a building down or not, i don't know. but this would have caused death. and a lot of damage. and so it was very serious. i know some people say that the fertilize fertilizer in the -- i guess it was like a box, a metal box in the back, wasn't of the explosive type. i've been advised today that what was in there may not have been the most explosive type of