students of color. so they happen to be african-american, but they also have to be latinoa, asian-americans and white americans. i think that white americans benefit from chicana studies. i think that white americans benefit from chicana studies. and finally, if we're talking about american history and shying away from the history of oppression we're not talking about american history. i live in washington, d.c., right next door the governor of virginia failed to mention that slavery was a critical part of the civil war. this is why we need these area studies to remind us the true history of america and i think that mr. horne would agree that when we tell the truth about american history the blood, the glory, the hardships and all of that needs to be told along with the great celebration of american democracy. >> mr. horne, a to respond to. i've got to take a quick break. gentlemen, stay with us. continue the conversation on the other side of the break. live chat up and running right now at ac360.com. join in on the conversation. suddenly the obama white house saying talking in afghanistan is overblown. the big "360" interview.