and i was a go go dancer briefly as well. i used to make a lot of money to pay for demos and flyers that i used to post up all around the nyu area on the lower east side to get people to come see my shows. i got a job when i was 15 because my allowance was about $20 a week. which in new york was impossible. so i used to waitress across the street from where i grew up. and i used to take all the money i made waitressing so that i could go watch jazz downtown. >> larry: you said that people use the word icon carelessly. do you consider yourself an icon? >> no, i do not. i hope when i'm dead i'll be considered an icon, though. >> larry: who are your icons? who does lady gaga look up to? >> who do i look up to? my mother.