>> larry: how do they feel about their father? >> you know, emma claire is at softball practice. all-star softball team. softball practice with her dad. they are proud of their dad. jack called on his way up to sports camp. his father drove him to sports camp. and said, we stopped at an applebee's and everybody wanted to have their picture taken with dad. you can see he acted like he was embarrassed but he was also proud, too. particularly, he was driving through western virginia -- not west virginia but western virginia. where there's a lot of poverty. those people say, okay, he messed up, but this guy was -- he was caring about us. you know. and so i think they give him a little more leeway than -- >> larry: do the kids -- have the kids met their stepsister? >> no, no. they have not. there'll come a time when they have. but quinn i think will be coming up on 2 1/2.