david webb, who is in new york has a small group, they've put him out front on this. he is very coherent, he is very clear, we appreciate him very much. but we hope that the, that the household names, dick armey, and sarah palin will push on. >> when you say, david webb, he's the one who has been put out there. they put him out there. why do you suppose he's the face that is representing the tea party movement to respond to the actions of mr. mark williams? >> you know, i, i don't know. you know, the, we would like to see tea party reps of all colors out there. we've heard from one of their black leaders. you know, until now he was identified with a very small group that the new yorker had called, threadbare and said could only turn out five people to a rally. now he's on national tv for