took him -- you mean initially? i took him to a lawyer who had attended some training for lawyers on chapter 12 bankruptcy. but in the end, that lawyer wasn't doing anything, and when the spooners called me and said he wasn't, then i action. it took me a couple of hours calling everyone i knew. i even called to other states trying to find a lawyer who would file a chapter 11 bankruptcy to stop the sale of his land at the courthouse steps. i was success dful in the end. >> during your time with the usda was there ever a discrimination claim filed against you? >> no. never. i went out of my way to -- you know, we didn't work directly with farmers at rural development. we were working with cities, with sewer problems, with police