in this case. no way he comes out of this with public thinking he's anything other than a sleazebag. he's a big talker, blow hard and all the rest but this is not one in which he'll come out smelling like a rose at all with public opinion. >> even though, david, he was not convicted of racketeering, wire fraud, attempted extortion, bribery, conspiracy, those are much more serious charges than making a false statement to an fbi agent. >> well, so far as we know he's not been acquitted on those counts. the jury is hung up on those counts. i think the totality of what the public has heard, comments, tapes, everything else, i think has really put a blotch over his reputation that is not going to be easily removed. he goes down on one count. i can understand popping champagne corks in term of him not going to jail very long but in terms of his public