give the money to your grandson and other relatives of yours and a member of your staff. how is that possible, that you didn't know that not only was this against the rules of the scholarship, but simply unethical? >> well, let me just say this. i was not aware of the rules. the rules have been very ambiguous. there were some rules that come out last year, but, you know, i have acknowledged i made a mistake. i've tried to make everything wholed. i have paid all the money out of my personal funds. and i'm ready to move on. >> you say the rules were ambiguous prior to last year and that you didn't know what the rules were. we found the 2008 scholarship application, and on it, it says, quote, employees and/or relatives of cbc members, cbc spouses, the cbc foundation, the board of directors are ineligible for the scholarship program. we also went back and found the 2006 guidelines from four years ago and it says the exact same thing, employees and/or relatives of cbc members, cbc spouses, cbc foundation board of directors are ineligible for the