they never liked. >> let me bring bill clinton into this conversation. and john avalon, i'll give you a chance. this is what former president clinton had to say about the tea party today. listen to this. >> in their purist form, the tea partiers are saying, i've been let down by big business and big government. the funders of the tea party movement, tend to be pretty far right extremists who want -- their goal is to destroy the power of government to mediate the power of corporations. >> so, john, avalon, again, he said to take down the power of government and essentially increase the power, his point, of corporations. does he have a point? >> i agree with him on the first point. it's about anger in government and big business. bill clinton is one of the smartest strategists out there, especially on the democratic side. these groups that are funding the tea party movement, it's important to appreciate that