a current customer. make sure they have your current address. it's not really free money because you paid for it in the first place. verizon has to say the majority of the data session involved minor data exchanges. do you say data? >> i don't know. >> i go back and forth. okay. minor data exchanges caused by software built into their phones. others involved accessing the web which should not have incurred the charges if you look at $6 a person, 15 million customers, you're talking about maybe as high as $90 million in overcharges over months and months and months. it raises the question to me -- what else are we paying for that we don't know? and at some point, a few pennies here and there becomes money for somebody. >> i think about it all the time. electric bill. how would i know and how would i prove? >> look at all of those access fees and charges and taxes, 15