your life forever. that story is true. that happened. but the heart does command us, doesn't it? >> the prbrain tells the heart what to do. >> they work together. >> larry: but if there is a malfunctioning -- >> you're right. i know what you're saying. we're all into our terminologies here. the fact is, what you're saying is, when we have a deep drive and a desire to be with somebody, that's what -- >> larry: i can't talk you out of love, can i? >> i love you with all my brain. saying i love you with all my heart doesn't work. >> larry: can you talk someone out of a relationship? >> not using the literal mind. someone suffering from love pain or anguish, these methods work. >> larry: cara, why did you decide to make a career of this? >> it's the only option i feel like i had. when i first started school -- >> larry: it had to be a brain?