move, make mistakes in communications. if bin laden had been following the script that our presidents have written for him, we would've had him a long time ago. >> so if he's hiding in plain sight as the suggestion has been from nato officials that our barbara starr talked to in afghanistan over the last couple of days, he would need to have some help. who's helping him? >> well, i think we forget sometimes that for a huge number of muslims around the world, he is a hero. he's not only stood up to the united states, he hurt us badly. in addition, he lives among tribes who regard protecting a guest with their lives as essential. so he lives in a very supportive population. the direct translation to him being safe because he's being protected by the pakistani government, i think, is a mistake. because he's living in an area that the pakistani government doesn't control. >> but there was a suggestion from nato officials to our barbara starr yesterday that some elements of the pakistani