and dolly. that era, because it was the -- they were in the frontier. >> '70s and '80s. >> the ' 80s? i loved the diversity. i'd say tammy winette, they were she-roes. then you've got that real slick, overproduced, i think the '80s was the least -- >> country music will always be in a state -- i see the stuff on tv and i go, there will always be a time for music in war time and peace time. >> larry: do you like rap? >> i do because of my children. i appreciate the poetry of it. i don't necessarily agree with some of the things they're saying once i understand what they mean. >> larry: naomi, you're -- >> as long as i don't pay attention to the words, i love