our -- our conviction rate is close to 100% with this. and lastly, we also save a sample for defense attorneys. so if they want to get independent testing with their -- the with blood, we do that, as well. there's no downside to this program. saves lives, it reduces cost, it puts more police officers on the street. and it can be done almost instantaneously in most states without legislative involvement or approval. >> and let me ask you this, b.j., as a criminal deaf attorney. this is not going -- defense attorney. this is not going to be, quickly, the last that we'll see of this. i imagine this discussion is going to continue if court. >> it's going to be in court. he's saying things in hers jurisdiction that other are not doing. they're having judges on the side of the road. they're not necessarily doing these pretesting or field so bright test. they're just saying -- sobriety tests. they're just saying refusal, get him arrested and take a blood sample. >> i expect that this conversation will continue in a court of law.
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