you have to ask yourself, what impact am i trying to have in the world? and how is what i'm doing different and distinctive from what other companies in this same field are doing? >> all right. bill -- >> wait. nope, no, no. the most important question of all, for 40 years, off and on you were the college roommate of one eliot spitzer. tell us something we don't know. >> eliot, can i really -- wanting the reveal this? >> no, no. this is -- >> this is a way to get trafficked at website. i'll reveal secrets on the web. >> okay, great. >> book is "practically radical." bill taylor, thank you so much for being here. >> that was fun. thank you very much. >> transformative. when we come back, moses spent 40 years in the wilderness. our next guest spent 40 years trying to make peace between the israelis and the palestinians. >> beavers build dams. secretaries of state take on