and this would have been someone who -- he was wearing like a white shirt and dark pants, the man's wife actually commented to her husband saying oh, i wonder what he just stole, he's really running. so i can imagine that this young man somehow was a part of this. and, you know, by the time the police got there, he was long gone. >> dr. steven rayle is a tucson doctor who wanted to meet this congresswoman gabrielle giffords, went to the event this morning and we're hearing his eyewitness account, doctor if you can stay with us, i want to continue this conversation, donna brazile is here, rowla