threat to . and i could possibly take him down without shooting him. which was -- pretty important to me to not, not to be an executioner. and luckily, i made that choice. and i ran up on him. and i grabbed his wrist. and told him to drop it. at which point, everyone around me made it pretty clear that the shooter was a different man. the one they were holding to the ground and struggling. that was just another bystander like myself trying to help. >> what you did, joe, i got to tell you what you did was an act of heroism. kind of remarkable. the question i have got for you. incredibly close call. you made the right judgment, remarkably good judgment not to shoot the other fellow who was there assisting as you were. does it worry you, my goodness how close you came in having that many guns around might have actually caused a tragedy? >> no. i mean, i made a really good decision. that's why i carry a gun. because i trust myself to make