we are hearing much more arguing in the streets between the people that are gathering around. i think that the -- that we have seen where ordinary citizens have had to go out with even kitchen knives to defend their shortness of breaths, homes and businesses that that has perhaps dispelled some of the -- >> once again, a measure of the satellite problems we are having as we try to report the story. jon, we heard from ivan watson some protesters are getting ready to pray. we have spoken to people over and over again who say don't exaggerate the influence of the muslim brotherhood at a time like this. yet when you talk about the power vacuum they are organized, entrenched with a clear political program and enormous credibility with the people of egypt. we don't have to paint them as a boogeyman, aster identifying,