skin which i'm absolutely religious about and jackie is too, i think -- and your body you don't get too fat you can look good until your way up in your 80s and 90s. >> you have fabulous skin. >> i went to a plastic surgeon for a tv show in beverly hills. he did pamela andersen's boob job. he did this computerized thing on my skin and said i'm in the 86% percentile. he said what do you put on it. i said nothing. nothing on my face. a bit of sunscreen if i'm in the sun. so the whole skin thing is a scam. >> i don't think that's necessarily true. >> you shave.