by all of those -- >> they still come out of japan even for other makers. i'm not sure everybody's going to be able to meet that demand because you can't get an ipad, you go get something else. >> the key is the ipad, not just that brand or experience, it is an experience. it's a different interface, people love it, and it's definitely been a huge game changer. >> were you here? we played with the playbook a little bit. >> and we had one of the techies from gizmodo on. and he said gamers like it. we sit here still try to type on the ipad. >> but for $60, you can get a rollout keyboard which you plug in. so many different ways to use it. definitely the netbook market is going to be gone and replaced by these tablets. >> yeah, i like the size of the playbook. >> you like the smaller? >> it's a little bigger than my pocket, but i can get bigger pockets. >> thanks, carmen. i just want to be clear on this because christine seems to be hanging this on me.