in central and eastern europe or the big changes in latin america, he went to chile and sometime after that, he was out. he was through the whole change, the whole thing changed. he was in congo for the change. so big changes from the historic point of view. that is why, i think, that it's john paul the great, not else. >> excellent. we're be atrophying a pope, not a patronage? >> that's a sticky question. let me finish the question. we all know john paul's great successes. from your point of view, what were his disappointments, his failures? >> disappointments, he loved the dear the embrace in moscow and he couldn't do that.