nothing to lose and everything to gain, and who will say anything just calls excuse me, b.s. on the amount of b.s. that are always in debates. >> i think it would be fun. and in a funny way, a bit like the birther dispute that went on. >> i never got that. i never understood any of that. >> it was quite clearly, getting him support from the hard core republican voters out there. >> i guess. >> you can see that in the polls. that's why he was doing it. but he was able to stand back at the end and say i forced out the truth. >> declare victory and get off the field. >> matt damon was quite critical of president obama. he quoted damon and said hey, i saw "adjustment bureau." right back at you. >> the lesson is don't take on the sitting president of the united states.