nothing to lose and everything to gain and who will say anything just calls, excuse me, b.s. on the amount of b.s. that are always in debates. i think he'll be the greatest greek chorus ever. >> i agree with you. i think it would be fun in nothing else. and i think it would in a funny way, a bit like this birther dispute that went on -- >> i never got that. i never understood any of that. >> well, it was quite clearly getting him support from the hardcore republican voters out there. you could see that in the poll. but also he was able to stand back at the end and say, well, i forced out the truth. >> declare a victory and get off the field. that's what they say. >> i had matt damon on. it's quite interesting. he was quite critical of president obama. >> i saw that. yes, he was. >> and president obama got his own back at the white house correspondents' dinner and actually said hey, matt, i saw "adjustment bureau." right back at you. which was what i call a zinger, i believe. >> you know what, the lesson there is don't take on the sitting president of the united states. >> when you saw matt say that,
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