champion and remain so of the freedom of information. isn't there a contradiction between being a champion of that and not releasing things like the dead photograph? in the end, isn't it likely to come out one day anyway and shouldn't you just release this stuff? >> well, i was one of the sponsors of the freedom of information act, and i do believe in as transparency to the extent it's possible. i've not seen the photographs and if i saw them i might have an opinion. i did see the photographs on kuda and usa hussein and released them and best if the iraqi people had a chance to be certain that these people were dead, gone, and were not going to reoccupy their leadership positions in a vicious saddam hussein regime. however, i have a lot of respect for secretary gates and he's