have unilateral access without pakistani intelligence. the problem, that would be good for the u.s. the problem in pakistan is, this absolutely incites the radicals. the notion of these bin laden wives being -- given access unilaterally to the american service really goes against the grain and really will incite more sort of accusations by extremists in pakistan against pakistani officials. >> reza, at a time when there's been so much focus on what value intelligence might come from the bin laden wives, you'll get what i might call an irony, this disclosure from our sources that among the materials seized in the compound was a great deal of pornography. osama bin laden cast himself as a religious warrior, a pious muslim. said the problem with the west and the united states is that it was godless and immoral. how will that play out in pakistan and with those who support bin laden?