remind viewers oprah helped me launch my show. she didn't know me at all. i knew to get oprah, i had to get gayle -- >> oh, that's not true. >> what you did -- you're being humble about it. i want to play you a clip from what oprah said about you in that interview. which i found fascinating. >> i would wish for every person on earth to experience somebody to care for them and to know them in such a way that they only want the best for you. but to have somebody who is a friend -- and you would know this too, that when you become famous and you have access to lots of different things, you know, a lot of people lose oxygen and they can't make the summit with you. so to be able to have somebody who not only can make the summit but stand at the summit with you and rejoices in your being able to make it. >> yes.