boxes of cereal and about 300 or 400 cans of vegetables and soup. but those things are great. they have a great shelf life and i don't have to buy them when they're expensive at the store. >> you're an extreme example. is there any way the average shopper can do this. use coupons to donate stuff to troops? >> sure. you know, you can get on our website and that's a great place where you can learn how to do this. it's really simple for the average shopper. doesn't take too much time if you know what you're doing. we liken this a lot to chess. you have to learn how to play the game. if you learn how to play the coupon game, you'll play it well. you sort of have to learn the rules. websites like ours are great ways to empower you to learn. we provide you with lists and coupon matchups that will make the time that you spend doing this a lot quicker. >> i also read that you sort of dumpster dived for coupons. how does that work? >> yeah, i dumpster dive for coupons because who wants to try to actually spend money for them. if you buy the newspaper and you buy a lot of newspapers like a