states isn't as important to him as delegates. >> the end goal is to get nominated. it's going to be we thought from the beginning a long process. that's why governor romney alone is working in so many states, organized in so many states and why he's had a consistent message that he's real credible, caring, he has the private sector experience, he can turn the economy around, beat obama. >> certainly mitt romney has run the best campaign. he's been the most consistent, he has the most money and as we see with the way he has dealt with newt gingrich, if he has to takt gloves off, he'll do it pretty effectively. i suppose the unanswered question is why can he not break through this almost myth i call 25% barrier of support in his own party? >> he's going to break through that barrier i hope and believe in a couple days in new